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Old 15 October 2006, 09:28 PM
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If you averaged up all your journeys over a year, what would be the fastest car, once you have to take into account,



Days off the road, servicing, problems, recalls

number of Fuel stops

Cornering speed, does it skitter across the road at the merest hint of a bump, if so, it isnt fast in the real world.

Straight line speed, can it maintain it without driving you mad

Can you cane it without feeling like it will break ?

Overtaking, mainstay of fast road driving, safe overtake

All weather capability, good wipers, stability control, 4wd, ABS, good heater, quick clear windscreen it all counts.




Your nominations please.
Old 15 October 2006, 09:42 PM
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Audi A4 2.0T Quattro
Old 15 October 2006, 09:48 PM
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Pug 306 gti6
Porsche 996
Audi S4 Avant
Golf TDi

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Old 15 October 2006, 10:20 PM
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any white van
Old 15 October 2006, 10:47 PM
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Certianly not an Impreza- any Impreza, say what you like.
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Depressingy boring and almost ashamed to nominate it, however i do own one and it is depressingly good at most things listed above.

It corners reasonably well, can be used to attack b roads with a good degree certainty (weekly trips up and down the A697 atest to it's capabilities) that it will get round the corners with out depositing you in a hedge. It returns 40-45 mpg cruises on motorways. Has a pile of toys, depreciates like a stone.

My nomination is laughably the Mondeo ST tdci.
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Originally Posted by rob878
Depressingy boring and almost ashamed to nominate it, however i do own one and it is depressingly good at most things listed above.

It corners reasonably well, can be used to attack b roads with a good degree certainty (weekly trips up and down the A697 atest to it's capabilities) that it will get round the corners with out depositing you in a hedge. It returns 40-45 mpg cruises on motorways. Has a pile of toys, depreciates like a stone.

My nomination is laughably the Mondeo ST tdci.
Not laughable, exactly what I am talking about, I bet over a year a Mondeo Diesel is faster than pretty much anything, all things considered.
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BMW330xd. 145mph max, 45mpg, good mid range grunt, 500 mile range, 4wd, comfy sports seats, low cabin noise. No quick clear but climate control that will have the screen de-misted in 30 seconds.The ultimate all rounder.
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good call with the Mondeo - forgot about that one.

Should really change mine, as relatively, the Porsche isn't a cheap car to run, akin to the RS4

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Although too new to judge reliability, but going on past performance of their other models, I'd say the new BMW 335d, 286bhp 427lb/ft, 0-60 6.2, 155mph, 37.7mpg, servicing not the cheapest but also not extortionate.
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
If you averaged up all your journeys over a year, what would be the fastest car, once you have to take into account,



Days off the road, servicing, problems, recalls

number of Fuel stops

Cornering speed, does it skitter across the road at the merest hint of a bump, if so, it isnt fast in the real world.

Straight line speed, can it maintain it without driving you mad

Can you cane it without feeling like it will break ?

Overtaking, mainstay of fast road driving, safe overtake

All weather capability, good wipers, stability control, 4wd, ABS, good heater, quick clear windscreen it all counts.




Your nominations please.
Previous generation Toyota Rav 4 3 door 2.0 petrol.

Don't laugh

0 to 60 in 8 and a bit, 120 mph with relative ease. Decent grunt, good overtaker.

Extra height opened up overtaking opertunities lower cars couldn't take.

Reasonable economy and half decent range.

In 20,000 miles nothing broke, fell off, went wrong. Drove it like I stole it most of the time.

Great traction, surprising amounts of cornering ability, took any amount of bumps the roads could throw at it. Very benign handling characteristics, easy to drift.

Kept going in winter weather when all aside from serious 4X4's were floundering. Fantastic stability through surface water too.

Faster than 99% of other road users 99% of the time.
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Old 16 October 2006, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
audi rs6
Range due to fuel consumption lets it down. Any car that could win this 'test' would need to be a diesel or have a massive fuel tank.
Old 16 October 2006, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Torpid
Range due to fuel consumption lets it down. Any car that could win this 'test' would need to be a diesel or have a massive fuel tank.

put an extended range tank in it, could od that for about £300-£400, extra 70 litres odd would see a fair few miles extra
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
put an extended range tank in it, could od that for about £300-£400, extra 70 litres odd would see a fair few miles extra
Unlikely modification but possible I suppose. I'm guessing though we are talking standard cars here rather than modified.
Old 16 October 2006, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Torpid
Unlikely modification but possible I suppose. I'm guessing though we are talking standard cars here rather than modified.
mates got one in his 4x4, ok slightly different car, bit its not impossible.

not sure what there range is standard tbh.

think you'll struggle to find a car that goes very well with big power.

having said that a vovlo v70 d5 will do 500 miles on a tank, 170 bhp and will easily sit at autobahn speeds aka 100mph +
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My urS4

80 litre tank, 30 mpg, utterly reliable, thoroughly over-engineered quattro drivetrain, firm but compliant ride, huge boot, cheap insurance, 150mph and 0-60 in 6.1 seconds ...

Best all round car I've ever had, especially considering it only cost £3500 ...
Old 16 October 2006, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrew Dixon
My urS4

80 litre tank, 30 mpg, utterly reliable, thoroughly over-engineered quattro drivetrain, firm but compliant ride, huge boot, cheap insurance, 150mph and 0-60 in 6.1 seconds ...

Best all round car I've ever had, especially considering it only cost £3500 ...
Nice cars, almost considered an RS2 having driven a friends but decided an S8 was the way to go instead.
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It's between the RS6 and the Passat tdi pd130 sport
Old 17 October 2006, 08:54 AM
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On a VERY long run a VAG 130 diesel would be hard to beat point to point ... I get a genuine 50mpg cruising at 90mph, which means 650+ miles between fill-ups (14 gallon tank). I need to stop and **** / refuel myself before the car does.
Old 17 October 2006, 09:31 AM
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My 1987 Mercedes Benz E Class estate, with the 2.5L Diesel

Never breaks down, does 45mpg, once you get used to the body roll, you don't have slow it down for corners and even muppets think twice about pulling out in front of it in traffic, everybody seems to instinctively realise that their car will come of worse in any coming together
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BMW 535 not that far of a M5 but with better MPG
Old 19 October 2006, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by F1 CJE UK
BMW 535 not that far of a M5 but with better MPG
As above.

Can't beat an old E39 refreshed with a new set of Bilsteins and bushes all round.
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Gotta ask, as I've always wanted to try one...Torpid, how do you find the S8?
Got an S4 Avant, and think it's brilliant.

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