New 3 door Civic.....stunning!!!
19 May 2006, 10:04 PM
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Not my cup of tea mate - i pick up my type r next friday 
much prefer the classic shape than the new "space age" thing they are trying - good adverts tho!
much prefer the classic shape than the new "space age" thing they are trying - good adverts tho!
20 May 2006, 09:26 AM
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I have mixed feelings on the new Civic. I quite like the front & side but hate how the back looks. I also think the interior is pretty good.
I would not buy one but it's good to see something a little different.
I would not buy one but it's good to see something a little different.
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Have they gone back to a propper independant rear suspension setup on the 3 door rather than the rear beam type on the 5 door?
Massive money saving/backwards step for Honda (a company that prides itself on engineering excellence) to have gone from an independant setup like it's had on Civics since the late 80's/early 90's to a solid rear beam on the new model
Massive money saving/backwards step for Honda (a company that prides itself on engineering excellence) to have gone from an independant setup like it's had on Civics since the late 80's/early 90's to a solid rear beam on the new model
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Originally Posted by Nat21
Have they gone back to a propper independant rear suspension setup on the 3 door rather than the rear beam type on the 5 door?
Massive money saving/backwards step for Honda (a company that prides itself on engineering excellence) to have gone from an independant setup like it's had on Civics since the late 80's/early 90's to a solid rear beam on the new model
Massive money saving/backwards step for Honda (a company that prides itself on engineering excellence) to have gone from an independant setup like it's had on Civics since the late 80's/early 90's to a solid rear beam on the new model
Absolutely, can't believe they've gone for style over substance. Market forces I guess, but a shame for (what was) such an engineering led company
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im one of the many people who actually work at honda building the new civic, and if you live in or around swindon then you will soon see that there becoming more and more common as you can get them as company cars now, the new type R is supposed to be made with 2 types coming out the normal type R and a type RR!!! seriously im not jokin its meant to be stripped of the "extras" and have the accord 2.2 type R engine fitted so should be quite pokey
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torsion bar at the back rather than independent rear suspension as with the current CTR. Going to be lighter than the current one and faster but will it handle as well is the biggest question.
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Still, all the chavs will be able to easily lower it with the torsion bar setup.
And they better hope it handles a damn site better than the current model
And they better hope it handles a damn site better than the current model
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apparently they have gone to great lengths to improve steering feel - I am sure it will be a pretty good drive. Not sure about the looks - triangular exhaust pipes and other bits - will have to see it in the flesh.
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Originally Posted by Nat21
Have they gone back to a propper independant rear suspension setup on the 3 door rather than the rear beam type on the 5 door?
Massive money saving/backwards step for Honda (a company that prides itself on engineering excellence) to have gone from an independant setup like it's had on Civics since the late 80's/early 90's to a solid rear beam on the new model
Massive money saving/backwards step for Honda (a company that prides itself on engineering excellence) to have gone from an independant setup like it's had on Civics since the late 80's/early 90's to a solid rear beam on the new model
Having driven the full range of the outgoing Civic (from the 1.4 through to the Type R) I'd have to say that using a torsion beam makes no difference at all. Oddly enough it handles better than any of the old range and is not a million miles off the Type R (it certainly doesn't understeer like the EP3).
Where the clever engineering lies is in the fact that it is shorter (in both length and height) than the old 5 door but is no less spacious on the inside and has a boot that is 30% larger.
So you really have to ask how Honda have managed to make a better handling car using inferior technology and a bigger car out of a smaller shell
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