mozzaITA

Seen some cheap skylines 2.5 gts for sale recently, i know they arnt a patch on the GT-R but how do they rate??... im coming from a dissapointing nissan 200 s13 will i be unhappy with a gt-s??

thanks

moz

leonpoole

A friend of mine has a gts.
Although not as quick as a gtr they are still fairly quick cars. I think the claimed 0-60 is around 6 seconds.
With them being big cars i didnt think it felt as fast as it was, and it felt like it wasnt till you got up into 3rd gear it really started to pull and feel quick

GC8

Id disagree about their 'not being a patch on a GT-R'. They produce only 30 PS less in a car weighing a damned site less; in my experience they arent a deal slower than the heavier RB26DETT engined car.

Simon

fatscoobyfella

R33's are great..with a few mods they can be quick...But they still feel like a "primera coupe"...If you want a cheap,quick car,thats RWD..Get a R32 GTS-t and throw £1500 at it..you will be up at the 320 bhp mark and big smiles everywhere...
Oh...they drive better than the 33 as well...

cookstar

iTrader: (6)

I have heard a lot of people say the 32 is much more drivable than the 33,


Would go with the GTR personally, cos a mate has one and i love it!

ScoobyJawa

30bhp believing the quoted figures

The GTR is widely known to be around 300bhp standard, plus the GTR is capable of 400bhp on Stage 1 mods, the GTS-T certainly doesn't get close to that figure

fatscoobyfella

I beg to differ,i had a GTS-t with a Hybrid turbo and an AVCR on,and it was 258bhp ATH on THORS Dyno..I may still have the print out...

RS Grant

Does that not make the at the flywheel figure close to 300bhp... but you'd obviously raised the boost on a Hybrid Turbo, so it wouldnt be a standard reading?!


Cheers,
Grant

mozzaITA

yeah but u cant get a GTR for £3k though!!!!...dont get me wrong if money was no object i would get the GT-R all day long!

Still alot of GT-S's come with a GT-R kit and look really nice!.... just a thought

fatscoobyfella

yea.....but thats why i said "THROW £1500 AT IT".Dont think i mentioned me quoting STANDARD BHP figures either!!..Spectacles Grant??

ScoobyJawa

Yeah, but thats not stage 1 tune, do the same to the GT-R and the difference gets even bigger 1.5k is not enough to Stage 1 tune a GTS-T, and have a hybrid turbo fited and mapped correctly. And little point doing the turbo unless you've fitted Stage 1 mods............

They aren't a bad car at all, but the GT-R is the daddy!

R33BAZ

I have had 2 x GTS now and due to my age had to go for this option as the GTR is much more. Here are the mods of mine -


Tuning

Apexi Turbo Kit Fitted
HKS SSQV Dump Valve
HKS Front Mounted Intercooler & Radiator
Blitz Induction Kit & Hardpipe Kit
Blitz Nur Spec Exhaust
Ntercooler NOS Kit
Cusco Front Strut Brace
Uprated Fuel Pump
Oil Cooler
FSE Regulator
Samco Hoses
TEIN Adjustable Suspension
Uprated New Performance Clutch
G-Reddy Boost Controller
Cusco Shift Light
G-Reddy Boost Gauge
G-Reddy Temperature Gauge
Apexi SAFC
HKS Turbo Timer
Digital Oil Temperature Gauge
Defi Digital Display (projects onto windscreen)

Styling

GRACER Front bumper
Aftermarket Side Skirts
Aftermarket Rear Spats
Aftermarket Higher Rear Spoiler
17” Lightweight ROZZA Alloys
Cobra Daytona Bucket Seats
Sparco Race Harnesses
Racing Pins on Bonnet
Aftermarket Steering Wheel & NOS Button
Aftermarket Foot Pedals
Momo Gearknob
Various Vinyl Graphics

Others

Sony CD Player (fitted in glovebox)
Kenwood Front Door Speakers
Sony 6x9 Rear Speakers
Toad Cat 1 Alarm & Immobiliser

Performance

370bhp at the wheels, 420bhp at the flywheel (excluding NOS)
Extra 30-40bhp gained by using NOS Kit
All work carried out by Thor Racing in Kenilworth

R33BAZ

Here are some pics aswell to give you an idea of how it can look!! Bring on the GTR'S! -

ScoobyJawa

Nice motor and spec mate

Heres mine:



Apexi Powerflow Induction, Greddy/Trust Power Extreme Zorst & Decat, HKS Downpipes, Stage 1 ECU, Blitz SBC-IDIII and Powermeter, HKS Iridium Plugs, Mocal Oil Cooler, Tein Super Street Coilovers & EDFC, R34 GTR 18" Alloys, Peformance brakes, braided hoses, Vented Bonnet, Aero Mirrors, Colour Coded Front Lip, Clear Indicators/Repeaters, Defi's - Phew!

RB170

Get a GTS and everytime you see a GTR you'll wish you had 1

I'd save a bit longer and get a GTR

R33BAZ

disagree with that imho........................................

you can get a minted clean, low mileage GTS for well under £5k straight from japan so u are the 1st owner in the uk.

stick a full GTR kit on it, GTR wheels and Badging and from the outside you have a GTR (or get a GTS with this already done as alot them in japan)

then modify the engine with a large single turbo and there u have it -

a GTR Replica thats quicker than alot of standard GTR's!!!
(but for less than a GTR costs and less insurance too)

RB170

But it won't be a GTR

GC8

An R32 GTS-T has a six cylinder 2000cc engine as opposed to the 2500cc engine in the R33, so Im not sure that Id agree with you there.

GC8

To a degree this is true, but the price difference is huge..... I can buy a nice Grade IV 1993/4 GTS-T TypeM manual for £1,600 (¥310,000) but a 1993/4 GTR (which'll be an R32) will cost at least £7,500 for Grade IV car, probably £9,000 (¥1,800,000), if you can find one and a minimum of £5,000 for a lesser accident history grade.

Simon

R33BAZ

It wont be a GTR no but if your not bothered about having 4WD would you not rather save £000's and have a car that looks the exact same?

Any in many cases quicker. ie my GTS is quicker than alot of GTR's on the road

ScoobyJawa

Its not exactly the same mate - you still don't have the flared arches which look mean as ****

And you still can't launch it from 6-7k rpm and watch all four wheels grip and **** off up the road, a GTS-T would be sat spinning its rears!

RB170

I'd rather have a GTS that looks like a GTS and is faster than a GTR than a GTS that looks like a GTR but saying that I'd rather have a GTR

C

Thats like making an XR3i like an RS Turbo

Why make is something its not?

fatscoobyfella

What we gotta remember here fella's is...If you ONLY have £5000 to spend,a GTR is out of the question..A GTR is the daddy,but come with Big daddy price tags too..
The GTS-t is relatively inexepensive,and you can get it going really well.

PERSONALLY..if i had 5k..i wouldnt go for a standard 33..They are a dissapointment.THATS why i said,get a 32 and Mod it to the tune of £1500..

BTW guys..My Experience with my 32..I bought the Hybrid S/H off skyline owners,as i did the AVCR..My Car came already with a Blitz decat and a Blitz panel filter..But that was it..nothing else...It pulled 258 ATH at Thor in front of many other liner owners on a rolling road day..So unless Thors rollers are wrong,thats what i believe it was..

BTW..turbo and AVCR totalled £600 and i fitted and wired myself..Grasshopper set up the AVCR tho..

And i know the r32 is only a 2 litre..!!!!But its lighter and more agile than the 33..

Just my 2p worth..

ScoobyJawa

No offence mate but theres no way in hell I'd fit a different turbo to any car with just a boost controller, aftermarket ECU like a Power FC or HKS Fcon is a must IMHO..........

fatscoobyfella

Thats because you got plenty of readies...I quite agree with you about the aftermarket ECU..but you see,sometimes your pressed into doing stuff.My 32 was passing oil through the turbo seals,and smoking a bit..So the Hybrid came up from a damaged car,it was the same kinda price as i could get a recon one,so i went for it,along with the AVCR..
The Hybrid had a steel impellor and 360 degree bearings,was running it at 1.5bar usually.
The car is still running strong now,with no more mods and its exactly the same some 12 months down the line..To be fair,it was going weak at high boost,and a better fuel pump wouldnt have gone amiss,but all in all i had a quick car on cheap money...that was all i was trying to get across.
And i was ultra reliable...and still is...