A tired 205Gti 1.9
16 March 2005, 01:39 PM
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A tired 205Gti 1.9
I'll probably fire a similar thread to 205gtidrvs but with seemingly plenty of ppl using them as trackday cars on here thought it worth a shot here 1st.
I’ve got an 89 205 Gti 1.9 and have had the car for over 7 years now thoroughly enjoying every minute of it. The problem is it’s getting a little on the tired side with a definite lack of acceleration so want to inject a little life in to my pug to stick the smile back on my face.
Car:
121k
Superchipped (6 years ago)
Lowered to improve the already storming handling
Otherwise pretty standard
Recently I had the following done to try and improve matters but the acceleration is still quite lacklustre compared with its previous performance.
Last service 1 month ago:
Oil + Filter change (synthetic oil)
New distribution cap
New bosch super 4 plugs
Air flow / timings setup correctly
@ 111k I had
New piston rings
Cambelt
Big ends
Valve stem oil seals.
Any recommendations for putting the car back to neck snapping acceleration? Budget of around £600 for parts.
I’ve got an 89 205 Gti 1.9 and have had the car for over 7 years now thoroughly enjoying every minute of it. The problem is it’s getting a little on the tired side with a definite lack of acceleration so want to inject a little life in to my pug to stick the smile back on my face.
Car:
121k
Superchipped (6 years ago)
Lowered to improve the already storming handling
Otherwise pretty standard
Recently I had the following done to try and improve matters but the acceleration is still quite lacklustre compared with its previous performance.
Last service 1 month ago:
Oil + Filter change (synthetic oil)
New distribution cap
New bosch super 4 plugs
Air flow / timings setup correctly
@ 111k I had
New piston rings
Cambelt
Big ends
Valve stem oil seals.
Any recommendations for putting the car back to neck snapping acceleration? Budget of around £600 for parts.
16 March 2005, 02:27 PM
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If it's like that then a top end rebuild probbaly.
"Gutmann Pug" on here is very knowledgeable on these so drop him a PM, or he my post on here soon.
Top end rebuild - guesstimate of about 1k.
"Gutmann Pug" on here is very knowledgeable on these so drop him a PM, or he my post on here soon.
Top end rebuild - guesstimate of about 1k.
16 March 2005, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by thecirsch
Stripping out the interior and removing the spare wheel when taking it out on track.
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16 March 2005, 04:51 PM
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Have you tried using "10k boost"?
It's an engine decoker designed for cars that have done over 100k miles and I've heard some good reviews of it. Think you can get it from Halfords
It's an engine decoker designed for cars that have done over 100k miles and I've heard some good reviews of it. Think you can get it from Halfords
16 March 2005, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Champion
Have you tried using "10k boost"?
It's an engine decoker designed for cars that have done over 100k miles and I've heard some good reviews of it. Think you can get it from Halfords
It's an engine decoker designed for cars that have done over 100k miles and I've heard some good reviews of it. Think you can get it from Halfords
16 March 2005, 05:05 PM
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Make sure your acelarator cable hasn't stretched 
Laugh at that you may, but I do know somebody who spent over a grand in performance bits on his car and still complained about it being a bit sluggish. He was not amused when he found out the cause and he didn't need to spend so much wedge...but he was more than a happy chappy when it was fixed
Laugh at that you may, but I do know somebody who spent over a grand in performance bits on his car and still complained about it being a bit sluggish. He was not amused when he found out the cause and he didn't need to spend so much wedge...but he was more than a happy chappy when it was fixed
16 March 2005, 05:22 PM
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Ali, I always swore that my second one had been shortened by a previous owner. The first was nice, but the second was like it was on speed - REALLY sensitive.
Think I heard another technique to increase responsiveness was to shorten the air intake tube, or summat...
Think I heard another technique to increase responsiveness was to shorten the air intake tube, or summat...
16 March 2005, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Brendan Hughes
Ali, I always swore that my second one had been shortened by a previous owner. The first was nice, but the second was like it was on speed - REALLY sensitive.
Think I heard another technique to increase responsiveness was to shorten the air intake tube, or summat...
Think I heard another technique to increase responsiveness was to shorten the air intake tube, or summat...
It could be your airflow meter too - seems quite common ....
Try Peugeot Sport Owners Club
Look out for "flying205nutter" he's managed to fix quite a few of the "silly" problems ..... but he and I have just put an Mi16 in his 205 .... Engine ran straight away - but road test is this weekend!
16 March 2005, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Champion
Have you tried using "10k boost"?
It's an engine decoker designed for cars that have done over 100k miles and I've heard some good reviews of it. Think you can get it from Halfords
It's an engine decoker designed for cars that have done over 100k miles and I've heard some good reviews of it. Think you can get it from Halfords
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Make sure your acelarator cable hasn't stretched
Laugh at that you may, but I do know somebody who spent over a grand in performance bits on his car and still complained about it being a bit sluggish. He was not amused when he found out the cause and he didn't need to spend so much wedge...but he was more than a happy chappy when it was fixed
Laugh at that you may, but I do know somebody who spent over a grand in performance bits on his car and still complained about it being a bit sluggish. He was not amused when he found out the cause and he didn't need to spend so much wedge...but he was more than a happy chappy when it was fixed
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16 March 2005, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MadMark
But then your torque suffers .....
It could be your airflow meter too - seems quite common ....
Try Peugeot Sport Owners Club
Look out for "flying205nutter" he's managed to fix quite a few of the "silly" problems ..... but he and I have just put an Mi16 in his 205 .... Engine ran straight away - but road test is this weekend!
It could be your airflow meter too - seems quite common ....
Try Peugeot Sport Owners Club
Look out for "flying205nutter" he's managed to fix quite a few of the "silly" problems ..... but he and I have just put an Mi16 in his 205 .... Engine ran straight away - but road test is this weekend!
16 March 2005, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
Take it to your local GOOD tuner and ask them to rolling road tune it.
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16 March 2005, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
Take it to your local GOOD tuner and ask them to rolling road tune it.
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How much is a decent top end rebuild/overhaul on a 1.9 GTi?? Ish??
16 March 2005, 11:07 PM
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Top end overaul, look at XU10 head replacement on 205gtidrivers forum. Basically a bigger valve head for £100
Carb cleaner is good for cleaning pipes etc and as a 10k boost replacement virtually same stuff. Optimax/BP help as well.
AFM may need a refurb, mines starting to go at 120k
Also a good damn service and tune up as mentioned.
Carb cleaner is good for cleaning pipes etc and as a 10k boost replacement virtually same stuff. Optimax/BP help as well.
AFM may need a refurb, mines starting to go at 120k
Also a good damn service and tune up as mentioned.
17 March 2005, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by LongTimeLurker
cheers. Good luck with the mi16, it's something i've considered but its been out of my price range in the the past.
We bought a nice Citroen BX GTi 16V for £240 - 90,000 miles with full service history!
The BX should be worth more than £250 when broken for scrap and so far it breaks down as follows:
16V Gearbox £50 (Shorter 1st and longer 5th Gears)
Alloy wheels £20
Electric window motors (4) £10
Air Conditioning (in this one) £50-60
Hydraulic Pump £15-20
Power steering rack £10
Driveshafts £10
Bodywork (drained of fluids - for scrap) £30
Windscreen and glass £20
Seats and trim £15
Instruments £10
Electric sunroof motor and mechanism £10
etc, etc.
On top of that - the old 1.9 Engine is worth £50+
So actually - this conversion has more than paid for itself - the only cost has been time and may have required a new clutch for the 16V Engine - but luckily this had only been in there for a few thousand miles ....
Good luck!
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