sonu

Hi all

anyone know how quick these things are? - I've just had a burn with one.

Thanks

Sonu

TonyBurns

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Porsche 911 Turbo (996) £86,000 6/3600 420/6000(bhp) 413/4600(torque) 272 4.1 (0-60) 189mph

virgin

for fek sake ! you cant just leave us there sonu, details please !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Danny Fisher

Sonu had he **** handed to him on a plate.....

S.B.

Have you got good eyesight or did you use a telescope to see which model it was as it was going further into the distance

sonu

Right this was a Carrera 4, not a turbo.

The scene:

We are sat level at traffic lights on a dual carriage way. We look at each other, rev engines and smile, ready for a blast. Red, Amber, Green, go! Up to 60 / 70 I had 1.5 car lengths ahead of him, then traffic got in the way. Friendly stuff really, as we waved and smiled. What was funnny was that there were a group of you lads watching on the side of the road, cheering.

I was really pleased as my car has recently been mapped with the link and it drives like a beast. I have no reason to lie as I have access to more powerful cars.

Thanks

Sonu

My car: UK '99, Link ECU, Gruppe-S headers, full decat, Rear ARB, eibachs, Bump Steer

Skittles

If you have a moded Scoob I would have thought the straightline performance up to say 100 would be similar, hence your 1.5 lengths lead. In the 'twisties' the Porsche should have the edge, not least because it has a more spohisticated 4WD system.

Assuming it was the 3.4, here are the stats below. If it was a 3.6 (2002 onwards faceflit), numbers in brackets

300 bhp (316) @ 6,800 rpm
258 (273) Lbft @ 4,600 (4,250) prm

Bhp/tonne: 222 (228)
0-60: 4.9 (5.0) secs
vmax: 174 (178) mph

Laps:
Nurburgring in 8:23
Hockenheim in 1:16:6

Cheers

Mad Gypsy

If it was a tiptronic it would be even slower. I think the 0-60 figures quoted are for a C2 manual not a C4.
Given equal driving skill, you'd struggle with a C2 manual in anything less than a 300+bhp scoob (which yours may be). A 3.4 C2 manual will do 0-100 in 11.4 seconds (10.9 for a 3.6), a P1 for example, takes 13.3. A bit of a difference.

A C4 tip (or manual) (there's no way of telling) would be much easier. There's a big difference between a C4 tip and a C2 manual. If it was -2001 it would be 3.4, post 2001 3.6

I'm sure your account of things are accurate, I had an almost identical race with a C4 with similar results in my 310bhp Type R.

Even a standard UK scoob will do ok against a 3.4 C4 cab tip, if the porker gets a crap start the scoob would kill it to 60. I'd still favor the 911 to beat the scoob to 100 though.

I can't see any scoob in standard form beating a C2 manual to 100.

Anyhow, well done!

Skittles

While manual and Tip acceleration figures on paper are different, you have to remember that in the real world the acceleration is very very close.

To get these manual acceleration figures you have to side-step the clutch at launch. Thereafter every gear change is short-shifted - i.e. no use of the clutch.

A tip car will simply not allow this level of abuse.

Do a couple of these runs and you need to replace the clutch. This was something BMW made claear when people used to say that on paper a E46 M3 with SMGII had the same times as a manual one.

Mad Gypsy

Having been in both manual and tip 996's. I found the manual to be a little sharper.

I noticed a big difference between the C4 which was tip and the manual C2.
Both seem to pull for longer than my Type R. Neither felt as brutal (especially the C4), the C2 wasn't far off, but it didn't stop pulling. It makes you understand why they are faster to 100, even though they don't 'feel' as fast.

I'm not sure whether I prefer the brutal nature of my Type R, or the 911's willingness to pull strongly from low down, all the way to the red line.
You may not get the same kick, but it feels so smoothe and strong. (still talking about cars!).

Davey P

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I have also had a play with a C4s in my P1 and beat him up to about 80 and then we both slowed down. I have no doubt that after 100 he probably would have left me for dead.