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The distance rumble of V8 Thunder.....MG ZT's are coming!

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Old 16 November 2003, 09:14 PM
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MG ZT V8's are now in production, 260 BHP but you can get an easy almost 300+ bhp out of their Mustang motor! After years of **** poor FWD cars atlast the Great grandson of the SD1 is here!

I can't wait to see/hear them....a well built and useable everyday TVR!

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Old 16 November 2003, 09:31 PM
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I saw/heard an early prototype model at Prodrive a couple of years ago sounded awesome. I doubt that exhaust makes it onto the road car though.

The ZT260 has been getting some good press although it is a little rough round the edges for some of the BMW types.
260bhp doesn't sound a lot but its the way it and the torque is delivered.
The supercharged version should be fun.

Rover has many problems with its ageing 25 and 45 line ups but the 75 and ZT has always had good press and customer satisfaction results and MG-Rover deserve a pat on the back for putting a big V8 RWD saloon on the market.

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Old 16 November 2003, 09:43 PM
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"260bhp doesn't sound a lot but its the way it and the torque is delivered."

that and that fact it's just over 300lbft as well ;-p
Old 16 November 2003, 10:06 PM
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Look at the online Times for a review- they sound like the kind of stuff MGR desperatly need.
Old 16 November 2003, 11:18 PM
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Convincingly better than an old 540i 6 speed?
Old 16 November 2003, 11:35 PM
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Wouldnt you rather have a mustang with a mustang engine, or a cheap ripp off rover?
Old 16 November 2003, 11:39 PM
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Neither.

The 540i mentioned above would do me.
Old 18 November 2003, 08:47 AM
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Depreciation ???????????????????
Old 18 November 2003, 09:10 AM
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day tripper, why compare apples and oranges?

Mustang: coupe with the steering wheel on the wrong side

MG: fast practical saloon

If they made a RHD 'stang available at the prices they pay in america, I'd sign up tomorrow.
Old 18 November 2003, 09:28 AM
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I expect they will depreciate pretty quickly, though so do most other big engined cars in this sector. There was a recent thread about problems with the RS6, I believe.

As for having a rip off Rover over a Mustang... I'd take the (MG) Rover in this country, as the suspension is set up to allow the car to go round corners properly.

I'm still pestering my brother for a go in the one on order at his dealership; should be fun!

There is also talk of tuned versions of the ZT and ZS coming out, with the ZS being a V6 with 300bhp.

My only concern with the new V8 ZTs (and the Rover equivalent) is the initial price - seems maybe a couple of grand too dear. Time will tell, I guess, as to how successful they are.
Old 18 November 2003, 10:07 AM
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the origional rover v8 was also american


so that means the SD1 was a rip off buick
Old 18 November 2003, 11:27 AM
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Yep, the old 3528cc engine was from Buick.
Old 18 November 2003, 11:35 AM
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Let's hope they don't fit the SD1's power-steering, I remember see-sawing across a busy road (major over assistance LOL)..

I wanna hear that V8 rumble soon !!
Old 18 November 2003, 11:57 AM
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I read a review in the Times (so I won't take it too seriously )They said the (ford) gearbox was very slow and clunky. And the car looked exactly like the standard versions, barring 4 exhaust pipes.

IMO, I'd like it just to look a little different - just to justify the extra money asthetically. But apparntly it drives as well as you you'd expect, very controllable and balanced

One thing is, it looks like it may have some tough competition. As Vauxhall are officially bringing over their Holdon Commador coupe V8 to the UK (basically a 2 door Omega with a huge V8 engine ). And judging by the expected retail price - its hits head on with the MG

All we need is Ford to join the party and bring in the Mustang

Aha! I found the link: Vauxhall Monaro - Oh yes!!

[Edited by ALi-B - 11/18/2003 12:03:36 PM]
Old 18 November 2003, 10:56 PM
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The one in Autocar this week look really moody in black, the whole thing looks so right with the big wheels and lower stance, the cooking 75 looks so much like a grandad chariot its untrue, its amazing what a bit fettling can do, so I cant see what else they could do with it, perhaps a fibreglass scoob on the bonnet and some big driving lamps, a big spoiler ?

As for the 540i, very nice car but I think the Rover may be a little cheaper and that bit rarer, and its British which without turning into a raging xenophobe does still mean something to some, unlike the people who buy the new mini resplendent with a Union Jack on the top, taking the p*ss a bit that really. I know its very fashionable to diss Rover and to a certain extent they brought it on themselves but going back to the seventies and eighties is a bit pointless as most cars were crap back then. Jaguar have turned it round in spectacular fashion so why cant Rover ? even considering the limited resources they had to start with.

The 540i depreciates heavily as do all big powerful saloon cars, I suspect the Rover will shed a fair chunk of cash but no worse than similar tackle from Jaguar, BMW or Merc, especially considering a Merc or BMW of comparable specification would be more expensive anyway.

Plus BMW have decided that Ugly is the new Handsome and Mercedes have dropped the quality thing a bit, had an M class for a bit and it was no way all that a 35 grand car should be, also the A class the in laws had fell to bits, Minis disentigrate with tedious regularity.







Old 18 November 2003, 10:58 PM
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Theres nothing wrong at all with lhd, you get used to it after a while.
Old 18 November 2003, 11:25 PM
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day tripper - nope I kept hitting the kerb in my uncles LHD bmw that he used to smuggle weapons from Germany in..

oops TMI (too much information) LOL

Old 19 November 2003, 06:42 AM
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I read somewhere (autocar I think) that the VW Phaeton is set to lose 60-65% of it's value in 3 years.

Seeing as the W12 version, is pretty much the same car as the Bentley GT and will do 180 odd Mph then it's possible to buy a 3 yr old phaeton for around 30K.
Old 20 November 2003, 01:13 PM
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For such huge engines, the power outputs on the ZT and the Monaro don't sound particularly impressive, particularly when you consider what Audi are doing with the NA 4.2 litre V8 (340 BHP).

The X-Power supercharged ZT might be worth a sniff, but it'll have to do about 2 or 3 years' worth of depreciation first!
Old 20 November 2003, 03:55 PM
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that vauxhall monaro looks a tad like a holden.

b
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It is isn't it??
Old 20 November 2003, 04:27 PM
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Not really surprising, given they are the same car: Vauxhall Monaro = Holden Monaro. In fact, most of the models are the same; see http://www.holden.com.au/
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