X2WRX

Has anybody had one on the track?
When i went on in one i would it brilliant but there was a full radical there as well it just seemed scary quick and i wanted to go just as quick. does anyone know of anything that willpput the power sky high

Corpulent Tosser

I hired (with a couple of others) a Blade engined Westy at Knockhill, it was brilliant, but a Hyabusa engine, or a Hyabusa turbo would be awesome.

X2WRX

the dax i went in had a hyabusa engine but i would like to see a turbo charged version

Jeff Wiltshire

You'll be pushed in a Westfield regardless of engine to do the same lap times as a Radical. This is why Westfield built the XTR2 as a 1950/60s designs (Lotus 7) isn't going to be able to compete with a full on modern race car (Radical)

Dizzy

utter crap

I've seen some VERY quick Caterfields.. one of the upsides of westfield getting sued was that they're now forced to develop the car. I've seen a SBD Westfield with some really trick suspention. I'm pretty sure that the suspension on both are massively improved over the 50/60 car

Not that I can comment but the Radical is supposed to be better than the XTR2 anyway

[Edited by Dizzy - 7/21/2003 2:36:08 PM]

Jeff Wiltshire

It's not utter crap.....however much you develop a Westfield or Caterham you will not do any thing like the lap times that a Radical is capable of.

[Edited by Jeff Wiltshire - 7/21/2003 3:25:31 PM]

FASTER MIKE!!

what about an r500?

chris p1

I've had both a 280bhp Westfield(just sold it last week) and a Radical Club Sport which ive had around 6 weeks and done about 5 track days in,i can say that without doubt the Radical is faster,around Brands Indy it's about 4 seconds a lap faster,I do 50 seconds in the Radical and 54 seconds in the Westie.But a well sorted Caterham R500 is just as fast as the Radical Club Sport both can do around the low 48's at Brands with a top driver in them,although a Radical SR3 can do it in 44seconds and thats around the same price as a good spec Caterham.

chris p1

Also from what ive seen the XTR2 is no where near as fast as a SR3 it's more like the performance of the Club Sport although it is a bit cheaper then the SR3.

Andy S.

The Westfield XTR2 is not a patch on a radical even in 1100 trim. And build quality is some what to be desired on the westfield (on the ones I have seen) The SR3 is virtually on pace with a F3 car round most circuits. I will put this car in the equation tough the DJ Firecat see www.djracecars.com . It boasts aluminuim chassis fully adjustable suspension and looks stunning.

[Edited by Andy S. - 7/22/2003 9:12:41 PM]

Chungster

I thought there are some Dax Rush's with Cossie Turbo lumps in them with some serious power. 4WD too.

droid42

I think downforce is probably what gives a Radical the edge over an R500 on most circuits.

There's one chap who turns up to most RMA days, who has designed and fitted his own downforce mods for his R500 (front skirt and rear wing). It looks odd but, from what I've seen, is bloody effective. He reckons 125mph around Craners and 95mph around the old hairpin at Donington. Would be interesting to see how that compares with a Radical ...

Ian.

chris p1

The only Radical's that runs down force are the Pro Sport and SR3 models the Club Sport that i have doesn't really have any although the body is so much more areodynamic then a brick shaped Caterfield that must be where it makes up most of it's time.
Here's a picture of both cars at Goodwood last month with the Westie being driven by my dad.



[Edited by chris p1 - 7/23/2003 12:26:50 AM]

[Edited by chris p1 - 7/23/2003 12:27:48 AM]

chris p1

One other thing i would say it's a lot easier to drive the Radical on or near the limit then a Caterfield,you really have to be on top form to get the best out of a Caterfield where's in the Radical it gives you more confidence to push it harder,its's also a lot safer which helps

NOZZER

Chris,
Sold the cossie then, ive still got mine and the P1 but getting used to the westy now
Going to the ring in it september so looking forward to that.
Did you get a good price and how long did it take to sell?

Sprint Chief

I think I know of one Dax Rush which could possibly lap faster than a radical.

At the last sprint meeting I organised in 2002 it beat a seriously quick Jedi and a March both by about 1 sec

There was also a AWD cossie turbo Rush at the event (although admittedly it had problems) that was 5 secs slower.

Car is a latest version Dax Rush with a holeshot Hyabusa turbo motor, I think total build cost would be in the region of £20k.