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Old 09 May 2003, 01:59 PM
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Request on behalf of a mate.

What is the quickest and fastest & good handling car up to £20k.

And it MUST pass the following criteria.
No more than 5 years old.
Unmodified.
Reliable (no tvrs!).
Not an Evo or Scoob.

RWD is a preference.
Old 09 May 2003, 02:40 PM
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add a couple of grand and get probably the FASTEST thing around, an ultima

Performance compared to a maclaren F1

Never driven one myself, just drooled at them, i did manage to pass one at donninton once, but was begin driven by a pleb, and nearly took us both out,...well he actually proceeded to slide into the kitty litter

Big beefy V8 sounds awesome, close to 200mph

Given the choice id have one o these, and a 100 quid crappy run around any day )

Old 09 May 2003, 03:50 PM
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3yr old E55 AMG - £18,000

Then spend a couple of hundred and remove the 155mph limiter. Handles in a sort of big saloon type way - but who cares, it'll take you, three of your biggest mates & and all your golf gear, fishing gear, football kit and half your living room to the bad side of 180mph!! In complete double glazed silence!! Just keep aside a few thousand every month to replace the rear tyres.


Old 09 May 2003, 05:05 PM
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just had a look on autotrader - 5 year old e55's are25 grand. 3/4 year old ones with 100,000+ miles go for 18 grand. who would pay 18 grand for a hundred thousand miler car? yes, e55, brilliant, cant eat the miles etc, but you are starting off with a 100,000 miles AND paying 18k for it!
Old 09 May 2003, 07:54 PM
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Catflap - could you point me at where you can get a £22k newish Ultima with close to 200mph worth of engine (guess that must mean about 500bhp) in it? Or are you talking just for the kit?

There was a Can-am for sale at Stoneleigh on Monday, which would fit the criteria (5.7 litre Chevvy with >400bhp). £54k. And still good "bang for your buck" at that price.

Back to original question. Something like a Caterham Superlight R would fit the bill - will mess with very serious stuff on a track - but you might worry with reliability and might not suit - in which case, I'd probably go with the M3.
Old 09 May 2003, 09:18 PM
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Yeah, I'd love an Ultima for £20k too!

Or a 3 year old E55 for £18k

I had to make do with a 1998 Skyline instead...

Still 550bhp conversion on the way now
Old 09 May 2003, 09:55 PM
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EVO EVO EVO - bound to get a 6
Old 09 May 2003, 09:55 PM
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Soarer ?

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Old 09 May 2003, 10:05 PM
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Got to be an E36 M3 or alpina B3

What about an RX7 too?
Old 09 May 2003, 10:11 PM
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Audi S4
Old 09 May 2003, 10:24 PM
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Corvette or maybe a Holden!

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Old 09 May 2003, 10:42 PM
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Hay

Join the Yahoo BEC list, there is a chap planning on building them fro 26k next year, he’s currently producing a load of 7 type fireblade cars fro 5k, These ultimas will be brand new, but im unsure of spec

If you looking now…

In this months kit car you’ll find ……drool

1996 4 litre v8 in orange for 22k

or an ultima spyder with only 1100 dry miles in purple for 21995

There are few others but closer to 40k

Or you can have my megablade for 13k (ill start saving the rest for an ultima LOL)

Anyone kno w the weight of one of these things? I would imagine they are much much lighter than a merc, with looks and originality and performance to die for (just my opinion, but why would any ono want to own a merc over an ultima, sure the ultima has 2 seats, but life is full of compromises, and you only live once, surly you can get a diesel to drive the boring bits to work and then unleash the bright orange ultmia after work or at weekends/track days yummy-no disrespect to the merc, lord knows they are awesome, and far out of my price range, but the ultima just seems that little bit more special)


There is no way a merc can touch it on looks thats for sure

http://www.ultimasports.co.uk/gtr/pics/usa01.jpg

http://www.ultimasports.co.uk/gtr/pics/usa03.jpg



[Edited by catflap - 5/9/2003 11:26:10 PM]
Old 10 May 2003, 10:14 AM
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Right, I've been searching through the Yahoo Groups and can't find the Bike Engined Car one - do you have an URL?

Cheers,
Old 10 May 2003, 02:06 PM
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Weight of an ultima is typically around 950kg, depending on engine etc. According to Evo mag, 925kg for the 540bhp can am they tested, 990 for the GTR. (Both with ~540bhp). So about half the weight of most Mercs.

1996 Ultima fails the 5 year criteria, and I suspect it "only" has 200-300bhp. Will be interesting to see what these £26k ones do - I could be tempted. Think I'd go with about 400bhp of small block chevvy as 450bhp/tonne is adequate and you'd have torque to die for.
Old 10 May 2003, 02:28 PM
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you could get a W reg Nissan 200SX for around 9k. then spend another 2k tuning it and bingo! 350bhp. Reliable too.
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Old 10 May 2003, 05:41 PM
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elise S2 all the time anytime
Old 10 May 2003, 07:01 PM
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A BMW V-12 engined Lamborghini Countach replica
Old 10 May 2003, 08:24 PM
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definately the E55
Old 10 May 2003, 10:37 PM
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Y dont you just buy a cossie and be done with it!!!!!!!!

mine would eat any subaru or big merc!!!!!!!
Old 11 May 2003, 10:02 AM
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metro 6r4
Old 11 May 2003, 10:05 AM
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ooops, misread the no more than 5years old bit as, more than 5years old.
Old 11 May 2003, 06:51 PM
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Audi RS4?
Old 11 May 2003, 07:40 PM
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An RS4 for 20k..... Where? I want it!!

Cheers,
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What about a MB C32 AMG? They go for less that £20K.
Old 05 September 2003, 02:10 PM
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M3 Evo
M Coupe
Porsche 968 (older than 5 yrs but a late Club Sport would be well worth considering)
Supra
Skyline

[Edited by Tommy 2000 - 5/9/2003 2:12:46 PM]
Old 05 September 2003, 05:06 PM
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z3 coupe if you can get one under 20K

zm3 or somit like that - the ugly one with a fat backside but dead quick

[Edited by juan - 5/13/2003 12:44:37 AM]
Old 05 September 2003, 08:03 PM
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Cerbera.
Edit: oops, you said no TVRs. But you're not going to get <5 year old, 200mph performance in anything else.

[Edited by carl - 5/9/2003 8:04:16 PM]
Old 05 October 2003, 04:53 PM
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http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/bike-engined-cars/

There we go

Yahoo is a pain for locating groups

yeh your right 2-300 bhp would not be the same, 450bhp sounds just right )

In terms of style/bang for buck/originality and sheer exotica, nothing suggested so far comes close in my opinion

Yep I plan on having one myself one day


[Edited by catflap - 5/10/2003 4:53:53 PM]
Old 05 October 2003, 07:56 PM
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An elise S2 ...eeek, id take my megablade over that anytime

[Edited by catflap - 5/10/2003 8:43:13 PM]
Old 05 November 2003, 06:27 PM
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OOO 6r4 now that’s an interesting car have to agree on this one

But a cozzy? over a 900kg 5-600 bhp ultima? even if it was as fast (doubtful) in a straight line, the ultima should surly (just guessing, but due to down force and race chassis,) be quicker. Plus just a little more interesting than a cozzy, just my humble opinion.


Vs.




[Edited by catflap - 5/11/2003 6:33:27 PM]
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