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Old 10 December 2014, 11:24 AM
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Default New/nearly new M4 or second hand 991 Carrera S

What are peoples opinions? I've had back to back test drives in both and can't decide so think it'll come down to which one is going to cost less in depreciation and running costs. I felt the 991 handled better but the M4 did seem quicker in a straight line. I don't understand all the negativity with the M4 sound as I quite liked it in sports mode. The Porsche sounded awesome for the last 1000 rpm but nothing special below this. I must have been expecting too much from the sports exhaust in the 991.
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Tough decision, and regards depreciation I think the M4 will suffer more.
New year will see very low mileage ex demos below £50k - there seems to be a glut of them on the market at the moment.

991 I think will hold up better.

Running cost will be much the same I'd have thought.
CBS for the M and two yearly for the 991,

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Old 10 December 2014, 12:18 PM
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I was surprised how cheap the Porsche servicing was and I'd opt for the 5 year service pack on the M4 for £1k.
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The Porsche serving is fairly cheap until you get to the fourth one - plugs change, belts, brake fluid etc.
If it arrives at a time when the warranty needs renewing and the pads/discs changing (as it should) then it gets pretty expensive!

The first service on my Spyder cost about £650 and that included brake fluid change at 2 years old.
The service at four years, along with warranty renewal, possible pads, and probably two rear tyres would cost around £3k - but I've sold the car anyway...

I'd also not run a modern Porsche without an official warranty, so you are then stuck with them for all servicing and repairs.

Certainly, the BMW service plan is a total no brainer, even for resale value.
Old 10 December 2014, 03:56 PM
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I agree. I'll have to see if I can buy the service plan even after the first run in service is complete if I go down the M4 route.
Old 10 December 2014, 05:08 PM
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I think I'd go for the 911.
It's a special car from the ground up, it's N/A, it's all very nice.

An M4, although very quick, is clearly based in the three series, is reputed to be very laggy, struggles a bit with traction and sounds like a lowly M135i (some say worse )

Great every day supercar slayers but I'd err towards the Porker. A really special car.
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991 but I am biased. A good spec 991 like my old one will be a lovely car but may be a little expensive as my 62 plate 2 year old sold for 75k at the OPC. As for the BMW I actually prefer the looks of the M3, ive not driven one but would say that they are pretty good and about the same speed if not feel faster due to the extra torque of the turbo motor. Sense of occasion will be better in the Porsche although a brand spanking new BMW will feel special too
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Thanks for the comments. Scott your old red 991 would have been perfect if it had been within budget. In the next few months I'll be ordering a new M4 unless i can get a 991 carrera s, pdk, sports steering wheel, sports exhaust and sports chrono pack within budget. I've let my local Porsche garage know of my requirements so we'll see.
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Very nice Jim.
Business going well I presume?
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Porker... just the next stage in poshness
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Just to sway you Jim


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Neither I'd be looking for a GTR which would run rings round both
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GTR refinement and ride probably much worse. The M4 in particular should be far more civilised.

A £50k GTR is unlikely to depreciate anywhere near as heavily though, probably losing in 3 years what an M4 loses in one?

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Old 14 December 2014, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by SpecC_Chris
Neither I'd be looking for a GTR which would run rings round both
Sure, but it is not simply about "running rings"

Cars, at this level, are about the whole ownership proposition

Not just a feature/performance bake off
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Very nice Jim.
Business going well I presume?
Yes thanks Mattee . Snowed under and can't get away on holiday so thought I am going to treat myself to a nice motor I can enjoy in the summer months of 2015.
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Stunning photos Scott. Have you moved the Pork plate onto the GT3?
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Originally Posted by Jimpreza
Yes thanks Mattee . Snowed under and can't get away on holiday so thought I am going to treat myself to a nice motor I can enjoy in the summer months of 2015.
Nice one!
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Originally Posted by Jimpreza
Stunning photos Scott. Have you moved the Pork plate onto the GT3?
Thanks mate. Will probably put the plate on it next year some time
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