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Old 01 February 2014, 04:25 PM
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Thumbs down DVLA Fine...

I got a fine through the post today. Apparantly I didn't notify them I sold a vehilce BUT I'm certain I did - the only issue is, I no longer have the letter that I got back from the DVLA saying "Thank you for letting us know you no longer own this vehicle......." This is mainly because I only keep paperwork for about 12 months before shredding it and I sold this car about 4 years ago!
Old 01 February 2014, 04:30 PM
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I'm pretty sure you are the victim of a scam ........ contact the DVLA and question it.
Old 01 February 2014, 04:38 PM
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I will on monday but i'm pretty sure it's genuine.
Old 01 February 2014, 04:39 PM
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Four years ago?

Surely the car would have been taxed by the new owner at some stage?
Old 01 February 2014, 04:54 PM
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Surely they must /should have notified you earlier...The phrase `within a reasonable timescale` comes to mind...4 Years ,lol !
Old 01 February 2014, 04:55 PM
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yeah as it says 4 years is a long old time, somethign very didgy going on thee
Old 01 February 2014, 05:42 PM
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Is it insured on ASKMID?

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Old 01 February 2014, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Midlife......
Is it insured on ASKMID?

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Nope but it must still be about though as my mate spotted it on Swapz a few months back.

Also just checked tax and it has valid tax until the end of June this year.
Old 01 February 2014, 06:54 PM
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Sounds dodge.
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how much is the fine?
Old 01 February 2014, 07:04 PM
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Not got the paperwork with me but sure it says £50 or £35 if paid within so long...
Old 01 February 2014, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoobydoo Ste
Not got the paperwork with me but sure it says £50 or £35 if paid within so long...
check how you have to pay and where to send payment.pretty sure all dvla correspondence goes to a dvla sa99 so if its got a different address then start asking questions
Old 01 February 2014, 07:18 PM
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Just read the letter again and it says "Failure to notify disposal of vehicle: **51 ***"

I never disposed of it, it was sold... now i'm even more confused.

The address and phone number on it does check out as genuine though
Old 01 February 2014, 07:21 PM
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so its taxed until june yet its been disposed of..........
Old 01 February 2014, 07:23 PM
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Exactly, I don't think the DVLA know what they are doing - I will call them up on monday, hopefully it's straight forward enough to sort out. They honestly cannot expect me to still have any documentation for the vehicle so long after selling it.
Old 01 February 2014, 07:52 PM
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Just read this:-

"DVLA have no statutory authority to impose fine for the offence of failing to notify change of ownership.

This is matter for hearing at Magistrates Court.

This is unlike failing to declare SORN where a supplement can be charged by statute.

I have taken this up with DVLA in the past and they agree but their explanation is that they are offering a compromise to a Court action.

In your letter back ask them on what STATUTORY AUTHORITY they are imposing this fine.

Until such time as their reply (and dependng on what they say) DO NOT PAY!"

Tell them they will have to take you to court and they will look very stupid when taking 4 years to action something - in any case, you DID let them know and had a letter from them confirming it, but have now disposed of it.

They will never take it to court and cannot legally fine you, just offer to you that if you pay they won't do what they won't anyway .......... up to you, but I wouldn't play their silly game.

That's if it's not a scam of course! Which I still think it may be ....
Old 01 February 2014, 11:09 PM
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once you have sent the v5 to DVLA i.e you post it, your obligation under the regulations are finished.

There is no legal obligation for you to chase them to confirm they have received the v5
Old 01 February 2014, 11:11 PM
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Please note that it is not a legal requirement for you to chase up DVLA if they do not notify you that they have received your notification of change.

You are only required to post the notification off to DVLA and your statutory requirement has then been completed. It is then up to DVLA to prove that you didn't post it off NOT for you to prove that you did.
Old 01 February 2014, 11:26 PM
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Anyhow, they'd have been pestering someone for SORN every year so if that wasn't you then that more or less proves they knew you didn't have it and someone else did.
Old 02 February 2014, 06:41 AM
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If it's taxed the new owners details must be known.

If it's taxed on line the disc is posted out

If it's taxed in person you need to take either the reminder which has been posted out, or complete a form and the details will need to match insurance and log book.

Only way l can think of not doing either of the above is taxing on trader policy.
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