pslewis

... this is hard for me to say, but - I think the Tories have got it absolutely right.

A life on benefits should ALWAYS be a life not as generous than the life you can have by working.

Limit Child Benefit to 2 kids, as a starter.

Kick those lazy chavs out to work - clean the streets, tend an OAP's garden, assist in other community ways ....... or you don't get any benefits!

ReallyReallyGoodMeat

I was watching the BBC Final Score yesterday, there was a minute's silence to honour the Philpot children at the Derby game, as the two eldest were season ticket holders there.

Tragedy aside, how can it be right that a family on benefits afford football season tickets!?

How much of this kind of thing is going on right under our noses?

Disability benefits aside, benefits should be to stop people and their children from starving, no more.

Jamz3k

I was having a conversation thismorning with a family member and brought up the topic of me disliking the house I rent, it's old, it's small, it's featureless and it's hard to heat. This family member seemed a bit confused and said why don't you just move up where they live as it's a nice area with modern houses and close to town.

I then had to explain to them that:
A: I have a contractual agreement - something most foreign to them
B: If I break my contractual agreement I will lose my deposit - again completely and utterly foreign.
and finally
C: Because I work unlike them, I cannot afford to live in their area!

This country ****s me off no end.

Don't have a job? Never had one? On the dole? You should be living in a hostel or council estate not in upmarket apartments or new fully kitted out developments that the working class can't afford to move into.

SRSport

The council estate near me has recently had £millions pumped into it. It was a beaten down area with a bad reputation. The idea was that people would respond positively to nice surroundings and that moving people from their current unattractive pebble dashed houses into brand new, A rated solar panelled homes with full mod cons and private fencing around their gardens would instil some pride and lift them out of the depression that has led to so many anti social behaviour issues.

After the windows had been smashed in by the kids throwing stones at the houses that were yet to be occupied and the paint scrapped off the fences all that was left was for the parents to find things to moan about. "The garden should have been made this shape", "i dont like the colour of the doors," etc etc.

Its very sad to see and to me evidence that there is a desperate need for change to help snap people out of this culture where they have learnt to expect everything for nothing.

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

I'm actually in agreement with this thread.

I just hope it doesn't descend to the usual, "All doleys are skivers" type of comments. They aren't. Not even a majority of them are. End of.

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

The trouble is that the Tories and their press are happy to have all benefit recipients labelled as workshy lazy scum. It suits their agenda!

hodgy0_2

i read over the weekend that according to official statistics the number of families that have a high number of children (9 and over) claiming benefits is just over a 100 families

amazing that most seem to make it into the papers

urban

iTrader: (1)

Well this new disability review is a welcome move by me.
I know of two people with 'disability' issues that have **** all wrong with them
They are supposed to have bad backs, they get a DVLA car, and they are using it as a bloody taxi.

warrenm2

All thats lazy thinking

RA Dunk

How much of those would be of UK descent?

Leslie

Be careful Pete,much more of that sort of idea and you will become Apolitical...like me!

Les

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

I've been saying for a while that this government has been quite **** in it's treatment of certain groups.

They started with the public sector, teachers, and now the unemployed.

If you vilify a group enough, you can then treat them as you wish. Just as the ***** did in the 30's.......

And it's STILL not right!

ReallyReallyGoodMeat

I'm pretty sure the teachers have made a rod for their own backs.

And I think the comparison of the current Tory lot to the ***** to be somewhat sensationalist, which is ironic given the point you are making

paulr

Interesting article in the DT yesterday. The biggest rise over the last 10yrs has been housing benefit.
REASON : Parasitic buy to let landlords pushing up rent/ by default, housing benefit.

Anyone know any Mr Lewis ????

ReallyReallyGoodMeat

You can't blame them for charging (what I am assuming is) the market rate, which is ballooning.

pslewis

A lot of Landlords do not accept DSS Tenants.

Certainly, most like to buy a place and do it up for a private rental (you don't get the private rents smashing it all up - usually). DSS Tenants, for some reason, have little respect for the owner of the property.

RA Dunk

Maybe something to do with the majority of them being low life jobless uneducated fcukwits.

pslewis

Spot-on Dunk ....... I was trying to be a bit more PC about it

RA Dunk

No point beating about the bush with the PC nonsense. It's not as though I've told any lies.

Geezer

This is an interesting read for all the benefit haters.

Of course, true benefit scroungers need to be dealt with, and I agree with the approach of both parties for reducing the burden, but the problem isn't as bad people would have you believe.

Geezer

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

You're wasting your time on here with stuff like that, the Tories and the press have done their work well as far as the vast majority of SN NSR goes!

SRSport

Interesting read, thanks Geezer. Its certainly highlighted a few things I wasn't aware of.