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Old 03 January 2013, 01:41 PM
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Thumbs down Winter Fuel Payment under threat ...

.... for the better off Pensioners!!!

This is scandalous!!

We have paid into the system for the best part of 45 years, we deserve something back!!!

I rely on that payment to keep me out of hospital ..... so, it's a false economy if they cut it.

Reason being is that money heats my swimming pool, which keeps me active and healthy - imagine if I had to swim in cold water? That would cost the taxpayers much more!!
Old 03 January 2013, 01:51 PM
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Lol you should ring one of those consumer programmes and say you want to express your views on the cuts....

How much money could you save if you turned it down just one degree... Or rented it out to the local obese kids when your not using it?
Old 03 January 2013, 01:53 PM
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Great news, will go the same way as the child benefit I was getting. We need the rich to help bail this country out of the financial hole that NL / Gordon Brown go us into. Great that you can now do your bit too
Old 03 January 2013, 01:59 PM
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You should be forced to take cold showers too, never did Charlie boy any harm



If any reforms are to see light of day, it's this one imo
Old 03 January 2013, 05:09 PM
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Rich Pensioners are Tory voters on the whole ...... no legs in this reform.
Old 03 January 2013, 05:16 PM
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You have my sympathies Pete.
Old 03 January 2013, 05:25 PM
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Thanks Frostie ...... I just knew that you would understand the pain.
Old 03 January 2013, 05:26 PM
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Thanks Frostie ...... I just knew that you would understand the pain.
I do, I do. Have exactly the same problem with my Hot Tub I use for hydro-Therapy....
Old 03 January 2013, 05:29 PM
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Double whammy for you Pete, see other thread re benefit cuts for the obese.

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Old 03 January 2013, 05:47 PM
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I'm 20 stone ..... not sure that's Obese?
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5ft tall though.

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OH, I see ......... laughing at me bacause of my dwarfism .......... nice!
Old 03 January 2013, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
5ft tall though.

TX.
Old 03 January 2013, 07:20 PM
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My father in law joked about using it to heat his pool, wonder if he will keep it.
Old 03 January 2013, 08:49 PM
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Great news.

*Tory mode*

Cut it completely, just think of the pension payments we can save when all the oldies start dropping dead.
Old 04 January 2013, 01:01 PM
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You need us oldies to give you something to aspire to.

This is a car related BBS - the kiddies need the oldies to watch and learn how to drive properly and skillfully.
Old 04 January 2013, 01:18 PM
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The problem with these means tested benfits is the cost of implementing and running a system to evaluate who qualifies and who doesn't.

Before if you were over xx age, it was asimple case of checking birth records. Now it has to delve alot deeper into people's financial information to clarify that they qualify or not.

IMO the whole lot needs to be scrapped. And use a single one-shot benefit allowance for everyone; not one for fuel for an old farts, or another for someone with a child, or another for a jobless person and another for a disabled person etc. I'd propose a poverty benefit and use it to replace everything, the criteria would be complex, but if there is only one form of benefit rather than countless types. It will be less costly to administer once implemented IMHO.

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Old 04 January 2013, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
.... for the better off Pensioners!!!

This is scandalous!!

We have paid into the system for the best part of 45 years, we deserve something back!!!

I rely on that payment to keep me out of hospital ..... so, it's a false economy if they cut it.

Reason being is that money heats my swimming pool, which keeps me active and healthy - imagine if I had to swim in cold water? That would cost the taxpayers much more!!
gona a bit ott with adding the swimming pool bit on that troll pete
Old 04 January 2013, 01:54 PM
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I think it's a great idea - means tested benefits..... should be rolled out for everything...... oh wait....

If you want to sit in warm water, just p1ss yourself
Old 04 January 2013, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo555
I think it's a great idea - means tested benefits..... should be rolled out for everything...... oh wait....

If you want to sit in warm water, just p1ss yourself
he does that anyway
Old 05 January 2013, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I'm 20 stone ..... not sure that's Obese?
It is when you are only 5 feet tall!

Les
Old 05 January 2013, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
You need us oldies to give you something to aspire to.

This is a car related BBS - the kiddies need the oldies to watch and learn how to drive properly and skillfully.
Lol like you in a honda. I'd learn more playing forza
Old 06 January 2013, 01:12 AM
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Are you related to C.S. Lewis?
Old 06 January 2013, 02:18 AM
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One question - is your pool older than you are?
Old 06 January 2013, 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by skoobidude
Are you related to C.S. Lewis?
Yes. But Petes not quite as good at fairy tales
Old 06 January 2013, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
The problem with these means tested benfits is the cost of implementing and running a system to evaluate who qualifies and who doesn't.
Treasury Minister David Gauke said it was too difficult/expensive to do means testing on child benefit whilst refusing to answer the, "is it fair" question yesterday on Breakfast News, so I don't see how they'll manage to do it for the heating allowance as you have exactly the same problems to deal with.

Me and the Mrs talked about getting a divorce again last night, I might then just become a lodger and pay her monthly rent. Bit radical I know, but over the lenght of time she would continue to get CB, we are talking over £20k.

The Labour party have also been very quiet about the whole CB fiasco, which is a shame as they could do very well out of it for very little effort.
Old 06 January 2013, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I'm 20 stone ..... not sure that's Obese?
Originally Posted by Terminator X
5ft tall though.

TX.
Originally Posted by Leslie
It is when you are only 5 feet tall!

Les


How tall is he ?
Old 06 January 2013, 09:53 AM
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Still at least PSL now only pays 45% instead of 50% income tax and there's no masion tax either. That would more than make up for the loss of the winter allowance.
Old 06 January 2013, 12:32 PM
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Small consolation though for the monumental increases in "bell-end" tax

<you know we still like you, well, grudgingly recognise your right to existence, Pete >
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000

How tall is he ?
He said he is 5 feet and it is not for me to confirm or deny!

Les
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