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Old 13 May 2012, 10:14 PM
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Thumbs down Patients on Trolleys ....

.... in Hospital corridors ..... left to die, alone, untreated and with a cold wall for comfort!!

The last time it was this bad was under the Tories ......... oh, hang on a minute!

Whilst the rich get richer and get expensive Private Treatment .......

Eton Boyz ..... not a clue .......... let's put an end to this misery - please, Labour, come back and rescue the Country!!!!!
Old 13 May 2012, 11:02 PM
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Of course, this never happened under Labour.... Oh, hang on a minute! Yes it did!
Old 13 May 2012, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
Of course, this never happened under Labour.... Oh, hang on a minute! Yes it did!
Good to see you around Bubba
Old 13 May 2012, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
.... in Hospital corridors ..... left to die, alone, untreated and with a cold wall for comfort!!

The last time it was this bad was under the Tories ......... oh, hang on a minute!

Whilst the rich get richer and get expensive Private Treatment .......

Eton Boyz ..... not a clue .......... let's put an end to this misery - please, Labour, come back and rescue the Country!!!!!
Please be quiet, you forum-ruining troll.
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my mother died over a period of time where political power changed hands, did i notice a change in her level of care?
the answer is no.
my grandmother is now in the same situation.

please dont use sweeping generalisations to promote a politcal parties current position as a referance to actual patient care received. its a poor tactic to use, even more so for party politics.

individual cases and there discussion would possibly be welcomed, unfounded claims used as politcal promotion is not. just my opinion.
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Originally Posted by pslewis
.... in Hospital corridors ..... left to die, alone, untreated and with a cold wall for comfort!!

The last time it was this bad was under the Tories ......... oh, hang on a minute!

Whilst the rich get richer and get expensive Private Treatment .......

Eton Boyz ..... not a clue .......... let's put an end to this misery - please, Labour, come back and rescue the Country!!!!!
Sacred that's going to happen to you?
Old 14 May 2012, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
Of course, this never happened under Labour.... Oh, hang on a minute! Yes it did!
It did, yes, for a while while they put right what was wrong .....

I am merely stating what the Nursing Profession is saying is happening due to the Tories cost cutting ...... not party political, just an observation that the NHS seems to be much safer in Labour hands than in Tory hands.
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Originally Posted by pslewis
.... in Hospital corridors ..... left to die, alone, untreated and with a cold wall for comfort!!

The last time it was this bad was under the Tories ......... oh, hang on a minute!

Whilst the rich get richer and get expensive Private Treatment .......

Eton Boyz ..... not a clue .......... let's put an end to this misery - please, Labour, come back and rescue the Country!!!!!
I was left on a trolley for a long time while I was suffering intense pain from the bowel cancer which had not been diagnosed at the time. This was during Billy Liar's time in fact.

Can you afford private treatment on the enormous salary you are always telling us that you get?

Les
Old 14 May 2012, 12:14 PM
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Good afternoon Les.

I can afford Private Treatment, yes, but that doesn't mean that I would rather remain within the 50% Tax Band so that others less fortunate do not have to suffer.

The proposed drop in my tax bill to 45% is, quite frankly, immoral while patients lie on hospital trollies!
Old 14 May 2012, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Good afternoon Les.

I can afford Private Treatment, yes, but that doesn't mean that I would rather remain within the 50% Tax Band so that others less fortunate do not have to suffer.

The proposed drop in my tax bill to 45% is, quite frankly, immoral while patients lie on hospital trollies!
Keep taking the tablets Pete

Although perhaps you may wish to discuss an alternative with your shrink as you are clearly dellusional
Old 14 May 2012, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Good afternoon Les.

I can afford Private Treatment, yes, but that doesn't mean that I would rather remain within the 50% Tax Band so that others less fortunate do not have to suffer.

The proposed drop in my tax bill to 45% is, quite frankly, immoral while patients lie on hospital trollies!
Hello Pete,

Yes I agree with what you say of course. Cameron is fast running out of new excuses I think.

All this agreeing seems most unusual!

Les
Old 14 May 2012, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
The proposed drop in my tax bill to 45% is, quite frankly, immoral while patients lie on hospital trollies!
The Conservatives are allowing you choice as to where you spend your income rather than dictating it centrally. You can carry on making extra contributions to the NHS over and above your tax and NI contributions. Nobody will stop you.

Others may choose to support the police, the roads, the army, a much more democratic system.
Old 14 May 2012, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
The proposed drop in my tax bill to 45% is, quite frankly, immoral while patients lie on hospital trollies!
Absolutely, you should be paying 83% Income Tax and 15% on tax on income from investments etc just like it used to be under Labour....like you say, the rich just keep on getting richer and you still keep bragging on how much you earn.....
Old 14 May 2012, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by speedking
The Conservatives are allowing you choice as to where you spend your income rather than dictating it centrally. You can carry on making extra contributions to the NHS over and above your tax and NI contributions. Nobody will stop you.

Others may choose to support the police, the roads, the army, a much more democratic system.
Yes but who would actually do that? Also do you think the net contributions will be the same? I very much doubt it.

Not that I'm against the Tories, I'm pretty impartial, but something had to be done. Labour just didn't want to be the bad guys, saying that who would considering the elections were coming up.
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They are all S HIT! lets have a month of no politics!
Old 14 May 2012, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by speedking
You can carry on making extra contributions to the NHS over and above your tax and NI contributions. Nobody will stop you.
The system stops me!!!

There is no mechanism at all for me to pay more tax than my Accountant tells me is due, even my charitable giving is under threat of being Tax Relief limited!!
Old 14 May 2012, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jonc
and you still keep bragging on how much you earn.....
Please point me to where I said ANYTHING about how much I earn?!!!

I wouldn't be so crude as discuss my Income on here!
Old 14 May 2012, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
The system stops me!!!

There is no mechanism at all for me to pay more tax than my Accountant tells me is due, even my charitable giving is under threat of being Tax Relief limited!!
You can pay as much VAT as you can buy stuff Pete.
Old 14 May 2012, 07:07 PM
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Who pays VAT these days?

Joking aside .... I have nothing left to buy ....

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Originally Posted by pslewis
Who pays VAT these days?

Joking aside .... I have nothing left to buy ....
Ha ha give it a rest Pete.

P.S You got rid of the diesel Honda yet? I see you've been quiet about it recently.
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Went into hospital today for a minor procedure, and not one bed in the corridors, or cold walls. Nurses happy and smiling, and management sorting changes out on the wards with the staff nurses and doctors, and getting their wants sorted and being proper management instead of pencil pushers.

But its all doom and gloom isn`t it??
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Still got the Honda Diesel ... all 340Nm of it ... I did actually think of you lot 2 days ago as I renewed the Car tax - £120 ....... YUP £120!!!

I'm laughing all the way to the Bank ....... had to fill her up at the weekend after 560 miles Har Har Har Har .....
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Hello Pete,

Yes I agree with what you say of course. Cameron is fast running out of new excuses I think.

All this agreeing seems most unusual!

Les
You two could maybe form A COALITION
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LAB/LES Pact?
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Welcome back Lewis.
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Please point me to where I said ANYTHING about how much I earn?!!!
Your thinly veiled brag that you earn enough to be in the 45% top rate income tax bracket??!!!

Originally Posted by pslewis
I wouldn't be so crude as discuss my Income on here!
Yes you would, and duplicitously it wasn't that long ago you where you were looking at ways to minimize the the amount of tax you pay through salary sacrafice and going offshore.

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Originally Posted by pslewis
Still got the Honda Diesel ... all 340Nm of it ... I did actually think of you lot 2 days ago as I renewed the Car tax - £120 ....... YUP £120!!!

I'm laughing all the way to the Bank ....... had to fill her up at the weekend after 560 miles Har Har Har Har .....
I didn't realise the torque was that low Pete.
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Neck snapping Tony - Neck snapping ........... and at 56mpg it's such fun
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Neck snapping Tony - Neck snapping ........... and at 56mpg it's such fun
Lol its torque over such a narrow rev range as to be useless. It will be out of puff by 3k.


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