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Old 03 March 2012, 11:12 AM
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Old 03 March 2012, 11:40 AM
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A slippery slope indeed - they may let sensible and intelligent people in

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Old 03 March 2012, 11:49 AM
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A slippery slope indeed - they may let sensible and intelligent people in

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Yup, the likes of G4S for example...
Old 03 March 2012, 11:54 AM
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What's left for this Government to sell off
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Originally Posted by Lee247
What's left for this Government to sell off
Itself?
Old 03 March 2012, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Itself?
Old 03 March 2012, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Lee247
What's left for this Government to sell off
Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Itself
Already done, IMHO.

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Old 03 March 2012, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Already done, IMHO.
I agree-I think they are just hanging it out waiting for their ship to come in!

I certainly don't like the sound of that part privatisation of the police either. It is the people who will be the losers.

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Old 03 March 2012, 01:07 PM
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Terrible idea, where will the institutionalised racism come from for starters?
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It'll have to be bought in.

I'm assuming that you mean the way minorities like Eastern Europeans, and travellers are allowed to do as they please? THAT racism?
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I already see Police vans pimping out space on their sides to advertise Barrat homes etc.
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
I already see Police vans pimping out space on their sides to advertise Barrat homes etc.
Didn't know they went that far. Perhaps they could get sponsorhip for major arrests

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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Terrible idea, where will the institutionalised racism come from for starters?
They could employ some SN users.
Old 03 March 2012, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by zip106
They could employ some SN users.
Old 03 March 2012, 05:58 PM
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You've not got to look very hard to see how flawed and corrupt private authority would be. Look at wheel clampers !
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Fpmsl, one of many organisations that shouldn't be puting (sp?) profits first

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it seems when you have run out of money and imo more importantly, imagination, you call in the "market"

the "crack cocaine" of quick fixes


free markets have there place, but I suspect policing isn't one of them
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but of course you should judge a police force on whether it is catching more criminals than it employs

which during the leveson enquiry seems up for debate
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
but of course you should judge a police force on whether it is catching more criminals than it employs

which during the leveson enquiry seems up for debate
Good point

As an idea to rasie money I think they should start renting out the police horses to privileged folk..... oh hang on
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I think an even greater worry is the business about the government wanting to be able to hide certain kinds of court evidence from public view on the grounds of people using the evidence to claim compensation money.

Now there is a handy way of finding a cover up for all sorts of embarassing items!

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We've been here before...remeber Safety (s)camera partnerships? For-profit use of law enforcement to gain revenue. Yeah, that went down well.

Now, for those dropping cigarette butts, littering and loitering around everwhere with a tinny of Fosters in their hand...yeah, why not? But we know what'll happen; What we'll have is a load of jumped up little hitlers not too different from parking wardens/attendants paid to meet targets for law transgressions issued. And no doubt this will extend to motorists parking on pavements, opposite junctions and maybe even those with blown bulbs (one could hope)...maybe not a bad thing either, but its not really stamping out crime is it?

We all know what will happen. Huge focus on misdemeanor crime and less on organised and severe or violent crime and fraud. And even then it will be limited....can you imagine a group of 15yr old mouthy "yoofs" listening to a private employed 'rent a cop' who has no powers of arrest? They already laugh in the face of PCSOs.

However, I do wonder is this privatisation intended to replace PCSOs? Which IMO are already a huge wasteful drain on police resources and certainly this change of tact may help reduce that drain if they are employed to do more donkey work and get more frontline police out on the street. However I'll remain pessimistic.
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You only have to look at the two security guards on the You-tube link I posted of the guy trying to take photos outside Golden Wonder in Scunthorpe.

Their behaviour, respect for the law and knowledge of the law was abysmal.

But then, so has been that of some police officers I have had the misfortune to meet......
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