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Old 03 January 2012, 06:18 PM
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Default Mounting a tv on a plasterboard wall

As per the title...

Battons or similar are not an option

its a 20" lcd 100x100 vesa mount

Im guessing butterfly fixings or similar would be what i'm looking at?


any other ideas or systems that could be used??

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Old 03 January 2012, 06:22 PM
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is it plasterboard on brick or on studwork??
Old 03 January 2012, 06:23 PM
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The metal screw in fixings should be strong enough for a small tv bracket....just get plenty in for peace of mind
Old 03 January 2012, 06:28 PM
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Ive hung my 50" plasma on an eggcrate style plasterboard wall and i used unbrella type fixing and has held up all ok and no signs of pulling out so a 20" should be no problem at all
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Same as above I have a 42" and a 26" on plasterboard walls using above fixings and there fine
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i would pop some no nails on the mounting plate aswell tbh,, saftey first,.
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Old 03 January 2012, 06:35 PM
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i fit tv's on wall as part of my job and for 20" tv , you have nothing to worry about with the umbrella type screws
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Originally Posted by Ant
i fit tv's on wall as part of my job and for 20" tv , you have nothing to worry about with the umbrella type screws
Is that the spring toggle type fixings? or the ones that collapse to make a triangular type cover ?


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Old 03 January 2012, 06:42 PM
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i either use these



or these
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Cheers its the lowers i was thinking of


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Originally Posted by mart360
As per the title...

Battons or similar are not an option

its a 20" lcd 100x100 vesa mount

Im guessing butterfly fixings or similar would be what i'm looking at?


any other ideas or systems that could be used??

Mart
At that sort of TV size, the bracket itself is likely to make up a fair proportion of the combined weight of TV plus bracket, so going for the smallest or nearly-smallest that'll take the weight of the TV will mean less strain on the wall overall.
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Originally Posted by Ant
i either use these



or these

In my experience (airconditioning) I prefer these:



All can give issues though:

spring/toggle can work loose
Corkscrews sometimes don't bite well enough or split the plaster (unless a pilot hole is drilled first - even though they are supposed to be self drilling )
And the anchor bolts can just spin round

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http://www.transtools.co.uk/store/pr...s-100-box.html

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I have used the corkscrew type before in plastic /nylon form to hang radiators so they would be up to hanging a Tv .
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I'd personally use the ones Ali said
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If your that worried about the weight just cut a small section of board out and then screw some 4x1 to the back of the plasterboard and replace your cut out section. You will then have plenty timber to screw to which isnt going anywhere.
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Would probably be better to use something that has been designed for the job:

http://www.rigifix.com/

I have a dozen of these sitting in my hall way ready for my 60" going on a cantilever bracket (i have the bracket/bolts but no tv yet )
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Originally Posted by Scooby Soon!
Would probably be better to use something that has been designed for the job:

http://www.rigifix.com/

I have a dozen of these sitting in my hall way ready for my 60" going on a cantilever bracket (i have the bracket/bolts but no tv yet )
they are no good for platerbaord walls mate unless its brick behind it,.
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Originally Posted by Scooby Soon!
Would probably be better to use something that has been designed for the job:

http://www.rigifix.com/

I have a dozen of these sitting in my hall way ready for my 60" going on a cantilever bracket (i have the bracket/bolts but no tv yet )
that won't last 5 mins , fact!
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Originally Posted by Ant
that won't last 5 mins , fact!

Agreed... 60" on a cantilever

My 42" has 8 Fischer 10x100 solid wall fixings and 4 rawl anchors holding mounting plate to the wall

Probably overkill....but!



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Old 04 January 2012, 10:02 AM
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Go for a big back plate as well to spread the pressure out on the wall
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He's only fitting a 20" tv plaster fixings will be enough.
Old 04 January 2012, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by addi monster
they are no good for platerbaord walls mate unless its brick behind it,.
but they are made for plasterboard walls?

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Originally Posted by Ant
i either use these


I fecking hate those things, they mash up the surrounding plaster, snap when you are screwing them in, spin when you try to put the screw in. I have learnt that a pilot hole does ease things a bit even though they are supposed to be self drilling.

That said I've used then in a fair few places and do have a 2m+ wide roller blind hanging off them.

Dry lining & stud walls - great for fast, cheap, house building, sh*t when you want to fix stuff to them
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Originally Posted by Scooby Soon!
but they are made for plasterboard walls?

Wrong, they are made for dry lined walls, that is: Plasterboard - air gap / adhesive dabs - masonry. It is important that at least some of the plug goes into brick or block. I'm going to use these to mount my 50" plasma.

Plasterboard walls (or stud walls) are: Plasterboard - timber frame / air gap - Plasterboard. No masonry to fix the rigifix plugs into.
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Try and get a mounting plate with four rather than two fixing holes. If you have some adjustment on the position of the TV then seek out one of the vertical timber studs in the wall. Line your mounting plate up so that two of the fixing screws go into the timber. Use plasterboard fixings for the other two. That will do the job you need.
Old 04 January 2012, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Coffin Dodger
Wrong, they are made for dry lined walls, that is: Plasterboard - air gap / adhesive dabs - masonry. It is important that at least some of the plug goes into brick or block. I'm going to use these to mount my 50" plasma.

Plasterboard walls (or stud walls) are: Plasterboard - timber frame / air gap - Plasterboard. No masonry to fix the rigifix plugs into.
..and as I've experienced, you have to be careful even when using these - as you can find that if you don't have a large bracket that spans battens/dabs or a backing board/plate behind the bracket of a suitably large size - you can easily just pull a smaller bracket, complete with fixing through the plasterboard.

I was only mounting a relatively small LCD TV to the wall and found that without a thin MDF board behind the small bracet I couldn't get the fixings tight enough without causing the plasterboard to subside.

It's probably much easier if you use spring fixings with plasterboard, rather than mounting through and into the brick, and also have a lighter TV!

Good luck...
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Diy heaven,,,, i love it NOT,,, if you fix directly to plasterboard and try to hang any weight(50" plasma ect) it will simply fall off the wall(IN TIME) END OF ISSUE REALLY, plasterboard and weak and crumbly and fixings will pull out very very easy so if you value your TV or CHILD that may be under it when it falls GET IT DONE RIGHT! seek out the studs in the wall and fix to them or use long fixings (dot and dab wall) to grab the brickwork JOB DONE, I build for a living and know what im talking about so if your thinking of hanging a plasma FOR THE LOVE OF GOD do it right,. for the OP as your tv is not too heavy use some suitable fixing`s and also bond the bracket to the wall aswell and you should be fine,.

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