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Old 10 September 2011, 02:37 PM
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Default Holts gum gun putty, will it work?

Waiting on a new manifold and some gasket rings before I can replace my quite badly cracked manifold on the alfrod and I was wondering would this holts gum gun putty be up to the job of sealing the crack temporarily, say for a week or 2?

Or if someone can recommend anything else before i head to halfords as I'm concerned about carbon monoxide fumes entering through the air vents?
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Originally Posted by Jamz3k
Waiting on a new manifold and some gasket rings before I can replace my quite badly cracked manifold on the alfrod and I was wondering would this holts gum gun putty be up to the job of sealing the crack temporarily, say for a week or 2?

Or if someone can recommend anything else before i head to halfords?
no, not really it cannot withstand the pressures. depentant on the area you could try an exhaust bandage

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Exhaust-Repa.../dp/B004UZJUQ6

or if it is curved then this stuff

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...4ZMGX8Y9Z2AS75
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From having a nosey around, I am near sure the areas marked red on this pic are where the manifold is leaking.
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I don't think that bandage would do me much good.
Old 10 September 2011, 02:54 PM
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May be worth tryin chemical metal or something similer as a stop gap
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no chance. get it off and take it to a local welder/fabricator.

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the gun gun might work for a day or two m8 but the manifold will expand to much and the stuff will crumble get it to a welder it wont cost much
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I spoke to a local mechanic and he gave me some speil about it being cast iron and getting it welded would be expensive. I can get a secondhand one for £45. Either way I'm more concerned about driving it next week with poisonous gases entering the cabin until i have the chance to actually remove and replace.
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cheers guys anyway for the input, I'll just keep the window down next week!
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Why not just get the manifold welded? Has to be cheaper than a new one...probably cheaper than the gum gum too!

I just welded a cracked flange on a manifold for an MGB. No issue, just whack the current right up (It is a Snap-on 200amp welder )
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Why not just get the manifold welded? Has to be cheaper than a new one...probably cheaper than the gum gum too!

I just welded a cracked flange on a manifold for an MGB. No issue, just whack the current right up (It is a Snap-on 200amp welder )
why are mechanics so full of ****? The mechanic I spoke to as I stated above completely put me off getting it welded. Otherwise I could have had this sorted days ago!
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Maybe he's crap at welding or only has an 80amp welder?

There is always a risk that it can crack open again, but generally speaking its usually because the item is stressed in the first place (i.e badly fitting down pipe, bent brackets etc) or the weld wasn't done right (dirty or not enough current/heat etc).

As for fumes; just keep a window open. Seeing the heater takes it air in from underneath the wipers I doubt any nasty gasses will get in there. Biggest issue from manifold leaks is is the engine running too rich and damaging the cat.

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Originally Posted by ALi-B
As for fumes; just keep a window open. Seeing the heater takes it air in from underneath the wipers I doubt any nasty gasses will get in there. Biggest issue from manifold leaks is is the engine running too rich and damaging the cat.
I never considered that, I knew it would run rich but good point on damaging the CAT!

Another question Ali for when I am refitting the manifold. Should I use anything inbetween the manifold, gasket and engine, ie copper grease or just put it in place and tighten it up?
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Usually the gasket should do the job on its own.

You shouldn't really use any exhaust pastes or sealing compunds upsteam of the cat as chemicles from it burning off can contaminate the oxygen sensor as well as the cat. Especially if it contains silicone.
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Good stuff Ali, thanks again!
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Gun Gum can work quite well on exhaust systems well back from the manifold.

That manifold could be repaired quite easily and permanently by being brazed with something like Nickel or Silicon Bronze welding rod which stands a higher temperature than standard brazing rod.

I used to make my own manifolds using that stuff for the flanges where they attach to the pipes.

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Originally Posted by Leslie
Gun Gum can work quite well on exhaust systems well back from the manifold.

That manifold could be repaired quite easily and permanently by being brazed with something like Nickel or Silicon Bronze welding rod which stands a higher temperature than standard brazing rod.

I used to make my own manifolds using that stuff for the flanges where they attach to the pipes.

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Cheers for the advice Les!

I had a had a friend recommend getting it brazed but I was able to buy a secondhand manifold for £35 delivered which should be with me tomorrow/Wednesday. Seemed like a little less hassle!

I just need to either buy or have fabricated a new downpipe bracket and i'll be on the straight and narrow again!
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Glad you found a spare one then-less hassle.

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