M4RKG

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Howay then, lets hear everyones thoughts on this then?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11721981

Missile? Aeroplane? ... or weather balloon gone wrong?

... lets hear from all you conspiracy nuts aswell!

Luminous

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Canadian space shuttle nearly making orbit. That is my contribution to this thread

Wurzel

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First this

"the vapour trail of a missile rising from the water about 35 miles (56 km) offshore"

Then this

"It is unclear if the suspected missile was launched from land or sea"

maybe the US gov should ask the CBS news helicopter crew whether it came from land or sea

jasey

We haven't got any nuclear subs in the area have we.

I heard The Royal Navy let women on the subs now.

"What does this button do ?"

Wurzel

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Apparently it was an optical illusion. It was a plane flying towards the camera!!

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Str...on_Say_Experts

Yeah right stupid yank idiot!

gojonnyjo

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Et making a run for it

Janspeed

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Strangely not a single yank soul has remembered to bring up the "Scud in a boat" theory.

There is practically no control over what is sailing about, and they also dont keep a tab on all low tech missiles out there.

It would be fun to see them come up with an excuse for that.....

Boro

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The plane theory made me chuckle lol

pslewis

It's the propellor from HMS Astute ... some bint has been allowed to steer it ... and knocked the damned thing clean off!!

boomer

Wot, you mean that the earlier reports that there "were circuits connected to a SIM card" were wrong, and there was a timer in there after all (and not an altitude detector or a GPS trigger or a liquid-based primer or an underpant-controlled viability sensor or...)

Bloody good job that Dubya felt it necessary to try to drown a few "darkies" to save 'eaf-row rolleyes: Why aren't we at MI5 "doomed" status by now?

mb

Markus

There is some media hype about this. A notification was issued to indicate that the area was to be a no fly zone for a certain period. The navy person asked about it eiher wasn't cleared to know about it, or could not speak about it

My guess is it is a test of a new solid fuel system

Janspeed

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Contrails:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...955Z/PHNL/KPHX

No mystery.

Seems that a lot of folks forget that the planet is round.........

Tidgy

missile test caught on camera, nothing more sinister than that at a guess. the confusion is because the military wont say it was or wasn't them due to classification.

not sure what all the fuss is about myself.

Leslie

I have certainly seen many contrails which don't look quite right until you get a different angle on it. I will say that you have to be pretty high to cause a contrail depending on atmospheric conditions, and what was causing it appears to be travelling unsually fast for an aircraft travelling at that sort of height. The colour is due to the sun alright.

I can't offer a positive reason for it anyway.

Les

Tidgy

in part of the vid, look at teh very end of the trail (where what ever it is actualy is) you cna see some orange glow, could be the sun light, but looks more like the light of a rocket motor to me.

kamisama

he cant go home, hes in guantanamo bay

Janspeed

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"Usually, however, launches are announced in advance, giving aviators and mariners time to get out of the way. "Even if an operation is hush-hush, the military will still issue appropriate safety notices," notes Webb. A total-surprise launch is rare.

There is another possibility more likely than a mystery missile: It might have been an ordinary contrail. "The airspace off of the California coast is among the busiest in the U.S.," continues Webb. "Aircraft contrails form in a region called the contrail zone. In southern California, this zone lies approximately between 33,000 and 38,000 feet. During the cooler months of the year, this region drops down in altitude to the area where many jets fly. This produces a large number of visible contrails."

"Depending on an observer's perspective, a horizontal contrail can appear to be climbing steeply and resemble a rocket or missile trail," he says.

Nov. 8th wouldn't be the first time a contrail was mis-identified. Spaceweather.com frequently receives reports of apparent comets, meteors, and decaying satellites that are really airplane exhaust lit up by the setting sun. This could be such a case.

Indeed, evidence is mounting in favor of the contrail explanation. First, take a look at these pictures comparing the Nov. 8th event to other known airplane contrails. They all look like missiles--an artifact of camera-contrail viewing geometry. Second, reader Rob Matson notes that "a Boeing 757-200 from Honolulu to Phoenix flew right over Catalina Island at 37,000 feet at the time in question. Here is a map of the flight." Another reader, Paul Carreiro of Los Angeles, observes that "there have been no reports of any noctilucent cloud activity of the type which follow every sunset launch event we see here in Southern California. The lack of noctilucent reports or photos is further evidence that the object creating the trail did not transit through the stratosphere."

In short, it was probably an airplane."


http://spaceweather.com/

ALi-B

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Home made rocket?

FlightMan

Home made Scud more like.

Contrail my ****.

boomer

Sorry from me n'all - i should have used winkies rather than rolleyes (oops) The mis-information from the "intelligence services" is frightening and it is even sadder that the press seem to publish this crap without question.

Lets face it, 101 centigrammelitres can take a jumbo out, but 99 centigrammelitres can't, so bring on the perv scanners (or is that a winkie )

Cheers,

mb

Sbradley

Contrail and some crosswinds, maybe with a bit of an inversion thrown in for good luck.

SB