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Old 25 October 2010, 11:31 PM
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Angry Bonfire Night ... and who chooses to go on Strike?

Those lovely Firemen!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-11623410

Thanks for NOTHING ....
Old 25 October 2010, 11:40 PM
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Public sector workers are bearing the brunt of the cut backs brought in by this goverment to resolve the mess this country is in. I am on a two year wage freeze considering what the HM forces are doing world wide this in very unfair. Is it any wonder the fire Service who put their lives online to save ours feel this way?
Old 25 October 2010, 11:42 PM
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They'll not win many friends with this move!
Old 26 October 2010, 12:02 AM
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the firemen, in my opinion, are worth every penny, just like the nurses, and deserve as much respect, and financial reward , if not more than most . I think they deserve more than our "peers"!!
Old 26 October 2010, 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by bigredrob
the firemen, in my opinion, are worth every penny, just like the nurses, and deserve as much respect, and financial reward , if not more than most . I think they deserve more than our "peers"!!
Couldn't agree more but Nov 5th is just callous !
Old 26 October 2010, 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by bigredrob
the firemen, in my opinion, are worth every penny, just like the nurses, and deserve as much respect, and financial reward , if not more than most . I think they deserve more than our "peers"!!
Mates brother has retired on 2/3's final salary pension !
Old 26 October 2010, 12:47 AM
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Bearing in mind, you could class it as natural selection.

*Most* of the accidents on Bonfire night are down to stupid people's actions.....

The firemen are just employing this concept - don't bother helping those who are too stupid to help themselves....

Not necessarily my opinion, but a trail of thought....
Old 26 October 2010, 12:50 AM
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a bit like the the condems then !!
Old 26 October 2010, 08:19 AM
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Money grabbing ******* - sack the fecking lot of them... and roll out the:



With 500,000 civil servants about to be jobless I'm sure there's a few capable of being trained to take up any gaps...
Old 26 October 2010, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by bigredrob
the firemen, in my opinion, are worth every penny, just like the nurses, and deserve as much respect, and financial reward , if not more than most . I think they deserve more than our "peers"!!
Only problem I see is that firemen do f@ck all for 99% of their time whereas nurses and police etc are actively working..
Old 26 October 2010, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 360ste
Public sector workers are bearing the brunt of the cut backs brought in by this goverment to resolve the mess this country is in. I am on a two year wage freeze considering what the HM forces are doing world wide this in very unfair. Is it any wonder the fire Service who put their lives online to save ours feel this way?
Not that I want to be seen to be picking on you, but you are not the only one. I know several people who are not in the public service and are on pay freezes. One friend is on a four year pay freeze to be followed by a pay CUT - hows that for motivation

I don't meant to be argumentative, but at least you have a job.

As for the firemen, its a tough job, but it is one that they chose to do. No matter how much they will be paid, they will always be the ones risking their lives, a choice that they chose to make. A choice, that I might add I am grateful they have made, but that does not mean they can be paid anything they want.
Old 26 October 2010, 08:44 AM
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£30K per annum and £19 an hour overtime.... and they're striking at the busiest time of the year! They're about the highest paid in Europe for fire fighters, and equally the most greedy.
Old 26 October 2010, 09:38 AM
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A little off topic but..

My neighbour came around about a year ago when I had my wood burner on and asked me to let him know when it's gone out so he could put washing out. This was at 1030pm! I couldn't believe it.
I lit it again once this year and I heard all his windows banging shut then he wheel-spun off up the road in his Volvo.
I know one of the reasons he moved from his last house was because a neighbour had fires a lot. Here am I lighting mine once or twice a year and he has the odd barbaque which I have no problem with but people with glasss houses...


He hasn't spoken to me since

I wonder how he'll react on Nov 5th when the whole country stinks of burning!

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Old 26 October 2010, 09:46 AM
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Certain areas your not allowed a wood fire i guess .
Guy 2 doors down has / and runs everything off wood burning , apparently , and spends his time collecting firewood. Dont mind the smell at all ( felt natural after coming back from france this last time )
Its certainly not affected our washing / drying.


im trying to imagine a night for having a fire and being able to dry washing at 10.30 pm

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Old 26 October 2010, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Those lovely Firemen!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-11623410

Thanks for NOTHING ....
Just for a moment I thought you were going to hammer the teachers again!

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Old 26 October 2010, 10:33 AM
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dpb I think the washing going out was just a ploy in that his real issue was that he doesn't tolerate any burning smell due to his experience from his former neighbours.
I won't go out my way to annoy him, but I will be using my wood burner again next summer.
I'll not be dictated to by him so he needs to learn to put up.

We had an issue when we had a party once not long after neighbour had moved in. He "jokinly" told me during a conversation a few days later that him and his wife were looking to move house as they thought we would continue having lots of parties..
Somehow I don't think he was joking.. I'll perhaps start a separate thread about him because some of his issues are laughable and it's worth a big write up

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Old 26 October 2010, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by what would scooby do
Only problem I see is that firemen do f@ck all for 99% of their time whereas nurses and police etc are actively working..

Are you saying that the coppers come out when called in your area then?

What would you expect the firemen to do while they are waiting for a callout then?


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Old 26 October 2010, 10:39 AM
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Old 26 October 2010, 10:45 AM
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They're paid well - especially for a job where the entry qualification is to be of good health. The one really busy night of the year when they'd be most useful they chose to strike, if I were cynical I'd suggest that it's a way of them actually avoiding to have to do any real graft, as they're "on strike"

So if you think about it we're paying the idle tossers a years salary to "avoid" the one time we will likely need them most, that in my book is abusing the trust and respect of the general public - and for that they can all go and get fcuked.

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I love it when I see striking firemen with a brazier going on the pavement outside their headquarters. Anyone else light one, in town, those tw@s would be there to put it out
Old 26 October 2010, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
They're paid well - especially for a job where the entry qualification is to be of good health. The one really busy night of the year when they'd be most useful they chose to strike, if I were cynical I'd suggest that it's a way of them actually avoiding to have to do any real graft, as they're "on strike"

So if you think about it we're paying the idle tossers a years salary to "avoid" the one time we will likely need them most, that in my book is abusing the trust and respect of the general public - and for that they can all go and get fcuked.

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How would you feel about the one who risks his life to save yours!

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Old 26 October 2010, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
£30K per annum and £19 an hour overtime.... and they're striking at the busiest time of the year! They're about the highest paid in Europe for fire fighters, and equally the most greedy.
Mind boggling isn't it?

99% of their time is spent on second/third/fouth jobs (whilst being paid for by us!!!!) - sleeping or messing about playing pool and playstation games!!

I would be surprised if a fireman saw 2 fires a year ... and will only see a big dangerous one once in their career!!

Retire at 45 on 2/3rds pay ............. they're taking the pi55 in all honesty - sack them all and employ them on contracts where we pay for when we need them ... let them do their other jobs and we will call on them when we need assistance, and pay them for what they actually do.
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Originally Posted by Leslie
How would you feel about the one who risks his life to save yours!

Les
That's what he's paid for...... now show me a member of the public that's pulled a child from a burning car or house, that's a real hero to me.
Old 26 October 2010, 02:35 PM
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Who gets the most chances at it though?

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Old 26 October 2010, 02:36 PM
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Who get's paid to do it more like.
Old 26 October 2010, 02:39 PM
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I wish you would go on strike PSL
Old 26 October 2010, 05:28 PM
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I think they have a lot of respect from the Public but I do agree with some of the points, plus they are never short of applicants so in these times I think they should have a word with themselves.
Old 26 October 2010, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
I think they have a lot of respect from the Public but I do agree with some of the points, plus they are never short of applicants so in these times I think they should have a word with themselves.
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Old 26 October 2010, 07:27 PM
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Too much is being focused on November the 5th from the media etc,people read this and get worked up to easily without knowing the whole story.It appears to be happening more,working class people jumping on other working class people because they have some dispute with working conditions or pay etc.The Police are lazy and no good,to Tanker drivers on 35k a year to Firefighters.If the strike does go ahead,just be sensible on bonfire night,don't get drunk and start sticking fireworks in ya **** crack and lighting them etc..
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Now here, I'll have nowt bad said about Firemen.



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