Oil spill facts
15 June 2010, 08:41 AM
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Oil spill facts
The total surface area of all the worlds oceans is 3.61 x 10 >14 m>2
Assume a oil film thickness of 1 micron
Then we have a total volume of oil 3.61 x 10>8 m>3
The well is estimated to be spewing 50,000 barrels a day
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1 barrel of oil = 0.159 m>3
So assuming the well continues to spew and the well don't dry up , then it would take approximately 124 years for a film of oil to cover all the worlds oceans .
A truly useless piece of information I know , but in the words of Michael Caine - I lot of people don't know that !
Assume a oil film thickness of 1 micron
Then we have a total volume of oil 3.61 x 10>8 m>3
The well is estimated to be spewing 50,000 barrels a day
and
1 barrel of oil = 0.159 m>3
So assuming the well continues to spew and the well don't dry up , then it would take approximately 124 years for a film of oil to cover all the worlds oceans .
A truly useless piece of information I know , but in the words of Michael Caine - I lot of people don't know that !
15 June 2010, 08:57 AM
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What a little ray of sunshine you are Rob.
Depressing though, innit. BP must be absolutely ****ting themselves about the money lost. Bet they were banking on that oil field to keep them in bonusses for the next few years. Instead, it is all in the water AND they have to spend billions on clearing it up. Double whammy.
Depressing though, innit. BP must be absolutely ****ting themselves about the money lost. Bet they were banking on that oil field to keep them in bonusses for the next few years. Instead, it is all in the water AND they have to spend billions on clearing it up. Double whammy.
15 June 2010, 10:15 AM
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What I cant understand is the Anti UK rhetoric, ok it's a British Company but it was a subcontractor that made the mistake, drilling for oil under rights bought from the US government to produce oil, most of which I would imagine is going to keep their low fuel prices and sustain their massive demand for oil.
Ok, BP need to clean up their mess, it was under their control, the subcontractors got it wrong, BP make Billions every year so no sympathy there but the US government werent regulating things properly, whilst there is such a demand for Crude Oil to be taken from the ground and transported around the place there will always be the chance for these kind of incidents, no matter how much is learnt and how many proceudres are in place, its a risky business and the desire to get oil from more inhospitable, deeper areas now all the easily extracted stuff is gone makes it more likely, its unknown territory which increases the risk many fold.
The US are out there around the world, sticking their noses in, with us one step behind, neither exactly blameless on the world stage, plus you dont have to go far back in history to see some epic mistakes causing massive damage by US companies, remember Bhopal and the Amoco Cadiz, plus Mr Obama, though he has the moral high ground at the mometn should stop and think a while, what happens when an American company drops another bollock in the future, he may well have run out of goodwill.
Ok, BP need to clean up their mess, it was under their control, the subcontractors got it wrong, BP make Billions every year so no sympathy there but the US government werent regulating things properly, whilst there is such a demand for Crude Oil to be taken from the ground and transported around the place there will always be the chance for these kind of incidents, no matter how much is learnt and how many proceudres are in place, its a risky business and the desire to get oil from more inhospitable, deeper areas now all the easily extracted stuff is gone makes it more likely, its unknown territory which increases the risk many fold.
The US are out there around the world, sticking their noses in, with us one step behind, neither exactly blameless on the world stage, plus you dont have to go far back in history to see some epic mistakes causing massive damage by US companies, remember Bhopal and the Amoco Cadiz, plus Mr Obama, though he has the moral high ground at the mometn should stop and think a while, what happens when an American company drops another bollock in the future, he may well have run out of goodwill.
15 June 2010, 11:15 AM
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I agree with you J4CKO. Despite BP's responsibility for the rig etc. the two US companies who owned the rig and installed the equipment should also be held to task when it comes to paying for the damage to the environment and all the compensation claims etc.
I think it is a very poor do that the President has avoided any reference to those US firms and concentrated on laying into BP and Britain as well of course seemingly demonstrating his innate dislike of all things British! He has lost a lot of home popularity of course so he must be trying to show what a star he really is before their coming elections!
Les
I think it is a very poor do that the President has avoided any reference to those US firms and concentrated on laying into BP and Britain as well of course seemingly demonstrating his innate dislike of all things British! He has lost a lot of home popularity of course so he must be trying to show what a star he really is before their coming elections!
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15 June 2010, 11:24 AM
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BP is the prime therefore they are responsible. Once the dust starts to settle BP will see if Transocean or Halliburton have any liability then they will take them to the cleaners. Quite normal in business.
PS Rob - 50,000 barrels seems like a lot - so it may be 250 years!
PS Rob - 50,000 barrels seems like a lot - so it may be 250 years!
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15 June 2010, 02:13 PM
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He seems to think he has, ok, a bit of a telling off is in order but he is milking it a bit now, it wont get it sorted any quicker and is loosing him friends.
15 June 2010, 02:28 PM
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The US government has a short sighted view to the safety of US industry :-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_Alpha
Lots of other poor US practices here as well:-
http://www.csb.gov/
Especially this one!
http://www.csb.gov/investigations/de...1&pg=1&F_All=y
UK industry is not whiter than white but I'd rather be on a UK installation than a US one.
Steve
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_Alpha
Lots of other poor US practices here as well:-
http://www.csb.gov/
Especially this one!
http://www.csb.gov/investigations/de...1&pg=1&F_All=y
UK industry is not whiter than white but I'd rather be on a UK installation than a US one.
Steve
15 June 2010, 03:16 PM
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Instead of trying to tell how BP should do its business and "rubber necking" by visiting affected beaches, he should pull his foot out of his mouth and help with the clear up.
15 June 2010, 06:59 PM
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It does not look good for BP...
...there is some damning evidence emerging already and Halliburton are looking to be on safer ground...
...there is some damning evidence emerging already and Halliburton are looking to be on safer ground...
Among other things, BP apparently rejected advice of a sub-contractor, Halliburton, in preparing for a cementing job to close up the well.
BP rejected Halliburton's recommendation to use 21 centralisers to make sure the casing ran down the centre of the well bore. Instead, BP used six.
In an e-mail on 16 April, a BP official involved in the decisions explained: "It will take 10 hours to install them. I do not like this."
Later on the same day, another official recognised the risks of proceeding with insufficient centralisers but added: "Who cares, it's done, end of story, will probably be fine."
BP rejected Halliburton's recommendation to use 21 centralisers to make sure the casing ran down the centre of the well bore. Instead, BP used six.
In an e-mail on 16 April, a BP official involved in the decisions explained: "It will take 10 hours to install them. I do not like this."
Later on the same day, another official recognised the risks of proceeding with insufficient centralisers but added: "Who cares, it's done, end of story, will probably be fine."
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Remember how Dubya took an incident and used it as a rallying call to fulfill his ambitions?
Looks like Obama's attempting it
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...-oil-spill-911
Looks like Obama's attempting it
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...-oil-spill-911
15 June 2010, 09:35 PM
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As has been said above - nobody seems to be mentioning Bhopal and Union Carbide. Which in all honesty was a damn sight worse disaster than this is. The Union Carbide fallout is still killing people now!
16 June 2010, 09:11 AM
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http://environment.about.com/od/heal...stateofair.htm
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What the **** they moaning about they've never been bothered by polution before
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What the **** they moaning about they've never been bothered by polution before
16 June 2010, 03:33 PM
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BP is the prime therefore they are responsible. Once the dust starts to settle BP will see if Transocean or Halliburton have any liability then they will take them to the cleaners. Quite normal in business.
PS Rob - 50,000 barrels seems like a lot - so it may be 250 years!
PS Rob - 50,000 barrels seems like a lot - so it may be 250 years!
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17 June 2010, 02:24 PM
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