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Old 03 June 2010, 11:06 AM
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Question Another BP borehole question

OK so I can understand that they are sawing the top off the broken pipe and hope to fit a cap to this and get oil to the surface. But how is oil getting to surface - through a mile long pipe subject to huge ocean forces? And is oil pressure, which I know is high, enough to push it to the surface or will it have to be pumped somehow. I can't imagine a pump that could do this but I know sod all about underwater oil extraction. I keep hearing the expression "syphon the oil" but what the hell does that mean?


Any oil drilling gurus about?

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Old 03 June 2010, 11:16 AM
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The oil is lighter than water and is immiscible (does not dissolve) so it's inability to mix with the water and its buoyancy will drive it upwards.

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Am I right in thinking that the gas down there also helps to pressurise the chamber, forcing oil out?

I also heard they're planning to cap the pipe with Katie Price
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The gas and crude oil will be in the same wells. The gas is compressed and yes forces the oil out although the oil is at pressure (it's the pressure from the millions of years of rock formation that convert the organic matter into the fossil fuel). As wells become spent, seawater is injected into the wells to force the last oil out in order to maximise production.

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Originally Posted by BOB.T
Am I right in thinking that the gas down there also helps to pressurise the chamber, forcing oil out?

I also heard they're planning to cap the pipe with Katie Price

We can only hope!
Old 03 June 2010, 11:37 AM
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Send Dwight Yorke down there. If his **** was big enough to plug Jordan's borehole they could use it to plug this slightly smaller one.
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Send Dwight Yorke down there. If his **** was big enough to plug Jordan's borehole they could use it to plug this slightly smaller one.

Go and be silly somewhere else please (and don't give up the day job)
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Originally Posted by Steve vRS
The gas and crude oil will be in the same wells. The gas is compressed and yes forces the oil out although the oil is at pressure (it's the pressure from the millions of years of rock formation that convert the organic matter into the fossil fuel). As wells become spent, seawater is injected into the wells to force the last oil out in order to maximise production.

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But is oil transferred by pipeline to surface? If so it won't mix with the seawater at all. And a lot of oil seems to gradually sink to the floor?

Are you saying that with the natural oil and gas pressure that is enough head to reach surface?

Thanks, dl
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Originally Posted by David Lock
But is oil transferred by pipeline to surface
It's meant to be!

I think the idea is, you drill into a chamber of oil / gas, stick a pipe in and stuff comes out and is transported to the surface / away. As the level in the chamber drops you'd need to put a longer pipe in so instead a second hole is made and sea water is forced into the chamber, the oil sits on top of the water and the cycle continues...

At least that's my limited understanding of it
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Originally Posted by David Lock
OK so I can understand that they are sawing the top off the broken pipe and hope to fit a cap to this and get oil to the surface. But how is oil getting to surface - through a mile long pipe subject to huge ocean forces? And is oil pressure, which I know is high, enough to push it to the surface or will it have to be pumped somehow. I can't imagine a pump that could do this but I know sod all about underwater oil extraction. I keep hearing the expression "syphon the oil" but what the hell does that mean?


Any oil drilling gurus about?

dl
Just to turn your question around: If they fix a pipe to the wellhead and the oil doesn't have enough pressure to reach the surface, then job done. Just seal the top of the pipe and sail away.
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Originally Posted by speedking
Just to turn your question around: If they fix a pipe to the wellhead and the oil doesn't have enough pressure to reach the surface, then job done. Just seal the top of the pipe and sail away.
Yeah I wondered about that. But you would then have a steel, I presume, pipe loose in perhaps half a mile of ocean currents. So I guess it would be anchored to the ocean floor somehow and checked regularly. I'd ut a number of gate valves in the pipe in case it breaks.

How far is the hole from the nearet land?

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I suppose the theory can be proven by getting a bottle of oil, and submerse it in a bath full of water - and see what happens.

(Make sure the missus is out before comendering the bathtub though )
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
I suppose the theory can be proven by getting a bottle of oil, and submerse it in a bath full of water - and see what happens.

(Make sure the missus is out before comendering the bathtub though )
A stunningly brilliant scientific approach Ali

Then tip the oil in and a goldfish which you can pretend to be a Bluefin Tuna and see if it survives

Thanks for sharing!

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Don't forget to take the tuna out of the tin
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
I suppose the theory can be proven by getting a bottle of oil, and submerse it in a bath full of water - and see what happens.

(Make sure the missus is out before comendering the bathtub though )
In order to make the experiment a true representation of the real world you will need to place the oil under pressure so attaching a footpump to the bottle of oil is the logical course of action.

HTH
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Originally Posted by SJ_Skyline
In order to make the experiment a true representation of the real world you will need to place the oil under pressure so attaching a footpump to the bottle of oil is the logical course of action.
HTH
Honey, I've oiled the bathroom


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Don't forget to take the tuna out of the tin
How stupid - don't you know you can't get goldfish in tins

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Old 03 June 2010, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by David Lock
Go and be silly somewhere else please (and don't give up the day job)

Sorry, precious little Princess!
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Originally Posted by Alg
Sorry, precious little Princess!
Oi, show some respect to your elders.

DL,

The oil after drilling is piped ashore directly rather than going back up to the surface.

Yes there will be gas present with the oil.

Chip
Old 03 June 2010, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Oi, show some respect to your elders.

Chip - it is half term so you can understand the odd tantrum



DL,

The oil after drilling is piped ashore directly rather than going back up to the surface.

Yes there will be gas present with the oil.

Chip
Ah - now that makes sense and a lot safer than the vertical approach!

Cheers, David
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