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Old 31 March 2010, 06:16 PM
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One for PSL

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8597530.stm

Dont always believe what people tell you without checking.

Just like the three week early clocks go back post (they actually went forward)
Old 31 March 2010, 06:29 PM
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And listening to the radi earlier today this was reported as a warning to all the parties.

Still let's not let the facts get in the way of a good headline eh?
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So you think Brown having to apologise is not fact?
Old 31 March 2010, 06:53 PM
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I think anyone that thinks life will be better under the Tories or anyone else for that matter, is deluded.

This clamour to get Brown out and Cameron in is nonsense.
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Originally Posted by FlightMan
I think anyone that thinks life will be better under the Tories or anyone else for that matter, is deluded.

This clamour to get Brown out and Cameron in is nonsense.

Why? Should we just continue with a known liar who has destroyed our economy, opened the gates to every Eastern European who wants to work or draw benefits here, and STILL won't apologise, despite apologising for TWO things he had nowt to do with?

Give SOMEONE else a chance, FFS, I DON'T care who, I'd vote for Idi Amin before I'd want Brown again.
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Why? Should we just continue with a known liar who has destroyed our economy, opened the gates to every Eastern European who wants to work or draw benefits here, and STILL won't apologise, despite apologising for TWO things he had nowt to do with?

Give SOMEONE else a chance, FFS, I DON'T care who, I'd vote for Idi Amin before I'd want Brown again.
You really haven't got the hang of this democracy lark have you?


You cannot vote for foreign dictators in the UK general election, and you really cannot vote for dead foreign dictators......
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It just might be a democracy but for unelected leaders ,warlords and the downright perverted

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Old 31 March 2010, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
It just might be a democracy but for unelected leaders ,warlords and the downright perverted

'unelected leaders ,warlords and the downright perverted'

Sounds like the title to some strange video game
Old 31 March 2010, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by FlightMan
I think anyone that thinks life will be better under the Tories or anyone else for that matter, is deluded.

This clamour to get Brown out and Cameron in is nonsense.
If that is how you feel, then why is it you spend so much of your time trying to enlighten the rest of us lesser mortals with your infinite political nous?
And as it goes, to a blinkered individual such as me, the 'clamour' you refer to is to get Labour out. Who then is 'in' appears to be of secondary importance.

Kevin
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Is it really worth staying in England anymore Serious question.
I am thinking of selling up and shipping out, never thought that would ever happen, but it has !
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Originally Posted by FlightMan
I think anyone that thinks life will be better under the Tories or anyone else for that matter, is deluded.

This clamour to get Brown out and Cameron in is nonsense.
Brown will never stand up to the public sector unions so he has no chance of getting some productivity gains in the public sector and get spending down. Considering public sector productivity actually fell by 3.4% in the Labour's first ten years (when private sector productivity increased by over 6%) this doesn't feel like a lot to ask. At least with the tories we have a chance of this happening.
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Originally Posted by FlightMan
I think anyone that thinks life will be better under the Tories or anyone else for that matter, is deluded.

This clamour to get Brown out and Cameron in is nonsense.
I read the the "Common Market" now wants to know every detail of our lives, our political leanings, how we regard them, where we go and how we spend our lives, what we buy, what we earn, what savings we might have, our bank accounts, our religion if we have one, and that is just for a start. They will be able to access our phone calls, emails etc. All this info' will be passed to their own police force who will have the right to take action against us if they want.

How do you feel about all that, do you support such a situation?

Les
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What seems to be more to the point here is that we have such a thing as a statistics watchdog. Sounds like one of these quangos that aren't really all that necessary and a prime target for efficiency savings to me
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Originally Posted by Leslie
I read the the "Common Market" now wants to know every detail of our lives, our political leanings, how we regard them, where we go and how we spend our lives, what we buy, what we earn, what savings we might have, our bank accounts, our religion if we have one, and that is just for a start. They will be able to access our phone calls, emails etc. All this info' will be passed to their own police force who will have the right to take action against us if they want.

How do you feel about all that, do you support such a situation?

Les
Link?
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Originally Posted by c_maguire
If that is how you feel, then why is it you spend so much of your time trying to enlighten the rest of us lesser mortals with your infinite political nous?
And as it goes, to a blinkered individual such as me, the 'clamour' you refer to is to get Labour out. Who then is 'in' appears to be of secondary importance.

Kevin
Hi Kevin,

I think you have me confused with someon else old chap. Martin2005 maybe?

I'm Scoobynets resident baggage handler.

Toodle pip.

Old 01 April 2010, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by FlightMan
Hi Kevin,

I think you have me confused with someon else old chap. Martin2005 maybe?

I'm Scoobynets resident baggage handler.

Toodle pip.

Oh I see you want me to take the rap for this one too?????


grow up
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Labour always have lied, or bent the truth.

How many times have they said the British public supports the introduction of more speed camera's? Ask anyone you know, or don't know, and they'll be against speed camera. So where do these statistics come from? Make up bullsh!t, or are the statistics bent? Ask 100 school run mums, if they'd be for more speed camera's outside schools, and most would agree. This then gets bent to become most people support more speed camera's.

Look at the EU. GB stated we'd get a referendum. He lied, and signed it the day after everyone else.

Look at what Labour have done to this country? It's every immigrants christmas and Birthday rolled into one. They opened the gates and allowed anyone and everyone into Britain. Our benefit system can't cope. Our NHS can't cope. House priced shot up, as Labour gave all these imigrants a free house. Just look at any news report where a school is mentioned, and camera's are allowed in. It's a game of spot the white British kid.

Get these ******* out of power, and give someone else a go.
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Originally Posted by stilover
Labour always have lied, or bent the truth.

How many times have they said the British public supports the introduction of more speed camera's? Ask anyone you know, or don't know, and they'll be against speed camera. So where do these statistics come from? Make up bullsh!t, or are the statistics bent? Ask 100 school run mums, if they'd be for more speed camera's outside schools, and most would agree. This then gets bent to become most people support more speed camera's.

Look at the EU. GB stated we'd get a referendum. He lied, and signed it the day after everyone else.

Look at what Labour have done to this country? It's every immigrants christmas and Birthday rolled into one. They opened the gates and allowed anyone and everyone into Britain. Our benefit system can't cope. Our NHS can't cope. House priced shot up, as Labour gave all these imigrants a free house. Just look at any news report where a school is mentioned, and camera's are allowed in. It's a game of spot the white British kid.

Get these ******* out of power, and give someone else a go.
There is some irony in your assessment about bent stats (which is of course true) and your subsequent claim that we have 'allowed everyone and anyone in the country' and 'gave them all a free house' - which is a more bent stat than any the government has made

And the spot the white child comment is slightly odd to, have us white folk suddenly stopped breeding or something?
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Oh I see you want me to take the rap for this one too?????


grow up
Get a sense of humour FFS.
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Originally Posted by FlightMan
Link?
Sorry have not got one but it was in the media last week and was mentioned on TV. I am just interested in how people in general feel about that.

I will try to find a link.

Les

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Originally Posted by Leslie
Sorry have not got one but it was in the media last week and was mentioned on TV. I am just interested in how people in general feel about that.

I will try to find a link.

Les
I watched that episode of Spooks too
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Sorry have not got one but it was in the media last week and was mentioned on TV. I am just interested in how people in general feel about that.

I will try to find a link.

Les
Cheers Les.
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
I watched that episode of Spooks too
Has not been on Martin!

Les
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Originally Posted by stilover
Labour always have lied, or bent the truth.

How many times have they said the British public supports the introduction of more speed camera's? Ask anyone you know, or don't know, and they'll be against speed camera. So where do these statistics come from? Make up bullsh!t, or are the statistics bent? Ask 100 school run mums, if they'd be for more speed camera's outside schools, and most would agree. This then gets bent to become most people support more speed camera's.

Look at the EU. Cameron stated he'd give us a a referendum. He lied, and signed it the day after everyone else.

Look at what Labour have done to this country? It's every immigrants christmas and Birthday rolled into one. They opened the gates and allowed anyone and everyone into Britain. Our benefit system can't cope. Our NHS can't cope. House priced shot up, as Labour gave all these imigrants a free house. Just look at any news report where a school is mentioned, and camera's are allowed in. It's a game of spot the white British kid.

Get these ******* out of power, and give someone else a go.
EFA.
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Originally Posted by FlightMan
Cheers Les.
Found this one for a start, lots more info' available if you look for it.


http://www.thenewamerican.com/index....tigative-power
Les
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Found this one for a start, lots more info' available if you look for it.


http://www.thenewamerican.com/index....tigative-power
Les

Thanks for taking the time to find the link Les, but I'm not sure a right wing internet website is being truly objective.
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Originally Posted by FlightMan
Thanks for taking the time to find the link Les, but I'm not sure a right wing internet website is being truly objective.
Hard to say, but there are other similar descriptions by those who see it as a worry.

Les
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