The Battle Of Britain Memorial flight is at Risk, Please sign petition to save it!!!
28 January 2010, 08:55 AM
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The Battle Of Britain Memorial flight is at Risk, Please sign petition to save it!!!
http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http...8a0a086&ref=nf
I hope I have done this right!!!!!!!!
Cheers
Colin
I hope I have done this right!!!!!!!!
Cheers
Colin
28 January 2010, 09:00 AM
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I may be wrong - but wasn't this campaign doing the rounds last year, or maybe the year before? I thought what came out was that the Flight wasn't actually at risk at all?
I'm all for supporting the Flight, just questioning if this fear was just a mistake?
I'm all for supporting the Flight, just questioning if this fear was just a mistake?
28 January 2010, 09:07 AM
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As far as I know, my cousin who use to work for them (BBMF that is) started the petition only this week, as her Father was a Co-Pilot bomb Aimer in a Lancaster in WW2, he is the reason I love the Lancaster Bomber so much.
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28 January 2010, 11:16 AM
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That is very worrying news, I sincerely hope that does not happen. Apart from the all important significance of the BBMF and the vital history it commemorates from those dark days of WW2, it is a constant source of joy for the spectators at the displays. There was a move to include Vulcan 558 in the flight too and in view of the historic and effective stance of the V Bombers during the Cold War that would be a good thing to do.
The enemy was actively afraid of the Vulcan coupled with SSuP's bucket of sunshine until the day it was taken out of service.
This country will becaome a very grey place if this sort of thing is done away with!
Les
The enemy was actively afraid of the Vulcan coupled with SSuP's bucket of sunshine until the day it was taken out of service.
This country will becaome a very grey place if this sort of thing is done away with!
Les
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28 January 2010, 12:59 PM
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Rather than click the facebook link here is the proper link
Petition to: Ensure that the Battle of Birtain Memorial Flight is not axed in any defence cuts. | Number10.gov.uk
Petition to: Ensure that the Battle of Birtain Memorial Flight is not axed in any defence cuts. | Number10.gov.uk
28 January 2010, 01:16 PM
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You do seem to have pesky fingers .......... remember the MAMORY Flight of 2003? 
https://www.scoobynet.com/non-scooby...al-flight.html
https://www.scoobynet.com/non-scooby...al-flight.html
28 January 2010, 11:52 PM
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Number 10 just uses this system of petitions as away to channel compliants into a useless process rather than allowing people to find effective ways of complaining.
People filling in the petition and feel they have done their bit and then move onto some thing else. if this process wasnt available then people might be motivated into finding another way of complaining which would be outside the control of Number 10 and actually be effective
I hope they dont get rid of the BBMF as a cost cutting but they could do away with all the soldiers in london in the old uniforms doing cermonial duties and all the horses etc. Let the police guard these places if guards are needed.
Oh and the red arrows can go as well or be funded out of the governments PR budget because if it is a choice between a helicopter to move troops safely or the red arrows promoting the government i would want the helicopter as it would mean less troops dying in thin skinned vehicles on roads in far flung countries
People filling in the petition and feel they have done their bit and then move onto some thing else. if this process wasnt available then people might be motivated into finding another way of complaining which would be outside the control of Number 10 and actually be effective
I hope they dont get rid of the BBMF as a cost cutting but they could do away with all the soldiers in london in the old uniforms doing cermonial duties and all the horses etc. Let the police guard these places if guards are needed.
Oh and the red arrows can go as well or be funded out of the governments PR budget because if it is a choice between a helicopter to move troops safely or the red arrows promoting the government i would want the helicopter as it would mean less troops dying in thin skinned vehicles on roads in far flung countries
29 January 2010, 12:12 AM
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Troops don't die in thin skinned vehicles .... have you seen what a shaped charge can do to steel plate? I have - and no amount of practicable steel thickness can protect against roadside bombs .... it needs to be deflected somehow and many designs are being developed to do just this.
Slightly off topic, but just wanted to clear up that mis-understanding. Agree that Helicopters are required though
Slightly off topic, but just wanted to clear up that mis-understanding. Agree that Helicopters are required though
29 January 2010, 09:13 AM
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You rotten lot 
Anyhows anyone with any info on the Lancaster Bomber please could they PM me this is very dear to my heart, Sadly my uncle has passed away and he was gonna tell me about his life in the Lancaster but sadly that never happend
Any help greatly appreciated.
Cheers
Colin
Anyhows anyone with any info on the Lancaster Bomber please could they PM me this is very dear to my heart, Sadly my uncle has passed away and he was gonna tell me about his life in the Lancaster but sadly that never happend Any help greatly appreciated.Cheers
Colin
29 January 2010, 09:17 AM
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Not sure how close you are, but:-
The only place in the UK where you can ride in an Lancaster Bomber - Lincolnshire Aviation Heritage Centre
Dip Yer Bread!
The only place in the UK where you can ride in an Lancaster Bomber - Lincolnshire Aviation Heritage Centre
Dip Yer Bread!
29 January 2010, 05:19 PM
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The vehicles they are in are part of the problem as troops do have to travel by vehicles in certain areas.
Shaped charges do make a mess of steel plate but reactive armour was developed to protect against it.
Shaped charges do make a mess of steel plate but reactive armour was developed to protect against it.
30 January 2010, 12:28 AM
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But the insurgents aren't using tandem shaped charges, from what i understand most IED's are just remote fired explosives buried in the terrain with anti-handling circuits fitted to try and catch out the bomb disposal guys.
A shaped charge requires a delivery system against the vehicle and is no use if fired in a wall against a vehicle 2 metres away, they are using basic methods so a decent protected vehicle would significantly reduce the casualties but then again we have a long history of sending men to war with out the required kit and watching them die to save money we did with the cavalry in WWI and with aeroplanes and Tanks in WWII
A shaped charge requires a delivery system against the vehicle and is no use if fired in a wall against a vehicle 2 metres away, they are using basic methods so a decent protected vehicle would significantly reduce the casualties but then again we have a long history of sending men to war with out the required kit and watching them die to save money we did with the cavalry in WWI and with aeroplanes and Tanks in WWII
30 January 2010, 09:54 AM
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BOT....(back on topic-ish.... sort of)
The East Kirby Lancaster rides a bit of fun, but as it's just down the road from RAF Coningsby it's worth tieing the two events together and doing the BBMF at the same time, check their display calendar to make sure they'll actually be there though as they can travel a lot during the summer months.
PS - They're not getting cut and they're not short of a few quid either!
The East Kirby Lancaster rides a bit of fun, but as it's just down the road from RAF Coningsby it's worth tieing the two events together and doing the BBMF at the same time, check their display calendar to make sure they'll actually be there though as they can travel a lot during the summer months.
PS - They're not getting cut and they're not short of a few quid either!
30 January 2010, 10:01 AM
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30 January 2010, 10:57 AM
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