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Old 08 September 2009, 12:44 PM
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Default Victor bomber almost takes off by accident..

Hero pilot averted air show disaster after co-pilot hit throttle of WWII bomber by mistake | Mail Online

Nice to see the Mail have been doing their research, and seem to think the Victor is a WW2 bomber...

Looks like it had a lucky escape however - basically being taxied by an engineer and ex-pilot, and actually took off when the engineer hit the throttle by accident! Would have been interesting if they'd left it too late to abort the take-off!...

I wasn't aware there were any Victors left which could run, but seems there are actually 2!
Old 08 September 2009, 12:59 PM
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y no pilot on board during a taxi run, thought a qualified pilot had to be in one seat just in case?
Old 08 September 2009, 02:24 PM
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This was discussed at considerable length at the time of the event (May). There's a thread somewhere if anyone cares to search for it.
Old 08 September 2009, 08:52 PM
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Glad to see the CAA are taking no further action, although I feel like I need to go for a wash after spending so long on the Daily Mail site.
Old 08 September 2009, 09:02 PM
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So that's the excuse they finally came up with is it

I have to say though, that in the original footage it didn't sound to me like the throttles had been accidentally pushed wide open
Old 08 September 2009, 09:06 PM
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AFAIK the "flyboys" have one at Elvington.

Ow nasty noisy Subaru's on a day out, VS four huge jet engines, running "for a laugh" on a Sunday, just for fun of course....

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Old 09 September 2009, 10:52 AM
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heh, looks like the hero of the hour has signed in to comment below the article.
Spends most of his time correcting the inaccuracies though!
Just goes to show, when the creator finished working on the amoeba,
He started work on the daily mail journalist
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Old 09 September 2009, 03:13 PM
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Very poor write up by the reporter anyway. How can the "engineer" accidentally be described as hitting "the throttle" when it has 4-one for each engine make the aircraft get airborne. It looked as though full poke was applied at the beginning of the run anyway. Why was the aircraft "rotated" to a high nose attitude just before it left the ground? If he did not want to get airborne, why did the pilot not close the throttles himself? I imagine the aircraft was light on fuel which would make it liable to take off on a high power run, especially it the aircraft was rotated to a nose high attitude.

The drift to the left of the runway was due to a strong crosswind and they were very lucky to get off as lightly as they did.

The whole incident seems difficult to explain away to me. it was supposed to be a slow taxi down the runway for a photo shoot anyway.

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Old 09 September 2009, 03:21 PM
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Makes a good scare story...just like global warming...we "accidentally" stepped on the trace"gas". LMAO
Old 09 September 2009, 10:22 PM
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On the news the old boy ex pilot who landed it said the co-pilot opened it up to run it up to 100 knots/kmh/mph whatever!! But failed to throttle back when the pilot told him to, apparently he just froze and the plane kept accelerating and eventually took off. The ex RAF pilot on board had to land it himself. He said he was scared that the air speed would scrub off and the engines would stall causing it to fall out the sky but obviously it didn't and he landed it ok. This was at Bruntingthorpe apparently.
Old 09 September 2009, 10:25 PM
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Didn't this happen like ages ago?

Why is it hitting the news just now?
Old 10 September 2009, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by what would scooby do
Didn't this happen like ages ago?

Why is it hitting the news just now?
Cos the caa have confirmed no action will be taken. once you know you're in the clear, chatting to the press gets a lot easier.
And I wouldn't worry about the engines stalling, its the wings stalling that would have really ruined his day. Landing on grass or not, he really did get that aircraft out of a very nasty pickle.
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Old 10 September 2009, 10:08 AM
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What utterly **** poor reporting

"Accidental: A bystander videotapes the moment the Victor bomber took-off at an air show when a civilian co-pilot hit the throttle button by mistake"

Button????

then the report contradicts itself.
Old 10 September 2009, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
On the news the old boy ex pilot who landed it said the co-pilot opened it up to run it up to 100 knots/kmh/mph whatever!! But failed to throttle back when the pilot told him to, apparently he just froze and the plane kept accelerating and eventually took off. The ex RAF pilot on board had to land it himself. He said he was scared that the air speed would scrub off and the engines would stall causing it to fall out the sky but obviously it didn't and he landed it ok. This was at Bruntingthorpe apparently.
Any pilot with any kind of experience would actually realise the moment that the throttles were not closed that the other man had not followed his instruction. He would not be likely to sit there until the aircraft lifted off rather than chop the throttles right back himself! You would have to be in a trance to do that!

Why were they using all the power to do a slow taxi run down the runway anyway?

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Old 10 September 2009, 01:21 PM
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Its not a WW11 bomber it was in service in the early 50's
Old 10 September 2009, 01:25 PM
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Thought it was actually a fast taxi run. Was only the Bucc that did a slow one on the day
Old 10 September 2009, 01:37 PM
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Old 10 September 2009, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Any pilot with any kind of experience would actually realise the moment that the throttles were not closed that the other man had not followed his instruction. He would not be likely to sit there until the aircraft lifted off rather than chop the throttles right back himself! You would have to be in a trance to do that!

Why were they using all the power to do a slow taxi run down the runway anyway?

Les
No idea mate I can only relay what BBC news said. And the bloke who landed the plane.
Old 11 September 2009, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
No idea mate I can only relay what BBC news said. And the bloke who landed the plane.
Fair enough Wurzel, I can only say what I know from doing takeoffs on 4 engined aircraft for a good many years. It looks to me that they were being a bit mischievous or perhap's careless and the strong crosswind caught them out. Incidentally the Victor has very powerful engines, it was an in flight refuelling aircraft, and with a light fuel weight as it would have had, its 0-100 knots acceleration time would have been very impressive to say the least!

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Old 11 September 2009, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Fair enough Wurzel, I can only say that my **** is considerably bigger than yours

Les
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