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Old 06 May 2009, 01:57 PM
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Question How to move a safe? Ideas?

I have inherited a couple of safes that were left in a warehouse. The company that was in there before has gone bankrupt and they have kindly left both of them open with the keys. They are both Chubbs which I understand to be great safes. Problem is I now need to move them

One is approx 600mm - 700mm cubed and the other 500mm cubed. The smaller one I think 3 or 4 blokes could lift but the big one is fookin heavy.

I need to move them, out of warehouse office through standard door opening and onto a van. So I cant use a forklift as it won't fit through the door. And a dont own a forklift

Suggestions on a postcard please

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Old 06 May 2009, 02:00 PM
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what about a pallet truck? like a small fork lift, that you move by hand?
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Use a length of rope and a tow car to drag them out of the warehouse, once outside just use a forklift to stick them on the van.
Ask around the estate you're on, one of the businesses there must have a forklift you can borrow.
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Sack-truck or similar should do it plus a hand to get it there

- find one with metal wheels , mine had plastic type and are now not so good
Old 06 May 2009, 02:02 PM
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Try one of them two wheel dolley things ,that parcel delivery men use .
Should get through door no probs .

Put it on tilt back ,off you go .You,ve cracked it ,so to speak !!!!
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Moved one in my old workplace. Was only about 3 square and heavy. Managed to slide it most of the way on the carpet.
You could go old skool Egyptian style and use logs to roll it out. LOL.
Are you selling them or scrapping them? Just wondered, cos if you are scrapping them, let the scrap man do all the work.

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That's it: a sack truck, Screwfix sell them if you're stuck.
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Just Blow the bloody door off.

They'll be lighter to lift then.
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LOL at some of the replies

I think a sack truck is probably the way forward, im sure with a crow bar or similar we could lever it up enough. Problem is the warehouse is just off a town centre and there are no industrial estates nearby to borrow a fork lift from. So still have the problem of lifting it approx 2 ft

I thought hewdens or similar hire shops would have something for heavy lifts but it appears not.

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What about using an engine hoist?
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you need to borrow one of these

Three Position Truck - Heavy Duty

one of the businesses i'm a partner in sells safes and the guys who do the deliveries use these upto 400kgs! Only takes two of them to stand it back once its laid down.

Hss do them for hire as well.
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You've got no chance of picking the larger one up with a sack truck, chances are the base will either bend or even break as soon as you try tipping it back

What you need is a decent length (5-7') prybar and a set of skates


These are the sort of things we use to move heavy machines around at work;

Roller Crowbar RC Series

Skates Fixed Type SF Series
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We have a old bank day safe; When we had to move it, we had to take the door off (three man job), tip the safe and push chains under, then tip the other way to pull the chains through. Then hooked the chains up to an engine hoist, which allowed us to lift it and wheel it out the shop.


We then borrowed a mates hi-ab truck to lift it and transport it. We did try a mates box-van which had a tail-lift, but the safe was too heavy for the tail-lift (which was rated at a ton)


(tip: never buy an old bank safe from a stock auction, whilst the idea of a glass security interlock and dye bomb sounds enticing, the size, weight and the cost for a lock smith to open the b**tard after the keys were stolen was a fortune )

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pallet pump trucks
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As you mention keys - they are key safes, and not manifoil combination safes right?

Just asking because if you're too rough you'll shatter the glass plate in the back of the lock and royally screw it up. It's fixable, at a price (of if you know a member of a number of military units, a slab of beer!).
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Originally Posted by Prasius
As you mention keys - they are key safes, and not manifoil combination safes right?

Just asking because if you're too rough you'll shatter the glass plate in the back of the lock and royally screw it up. It's fixable, at a price (of if you know a member of a number of military units, a slab of beer!).
Thank you, great advice. Never knew that could be a problem.

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Originally Posted by CrisPDuk
You've got no chance of picking the larger one up with a sack truck, chances are the base will either bend or even break as soon as you try tipping it back

What you need is a decent length (5-7') prybar and a set of skates


These are the sort of things we use to move heavy machines around at work;

Roller Crowbar RC Series

Skates Fixed Type SF Series

They look great for moving it but I still hve the problem of lifting it on to a van.

I think an engine hoist would do the job but a PITA as I don't have either and its not really worth me spending a fortune moving it.

What about, using a crowbar and getting it onto a pallet then use a pallet truck to drag it out, therefore only lifting a inch off the ground?

Did I mention I have to get it up 10 steps to our first floor offices

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Originally Posted by j4ckos mate
pallet pump trucks

Just googled that and it looks like it would do the job.

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Slap your address on the top and call a courier!

Might cost you about £40 but it will be worth it!
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Originally Posted by cossie-nutter
Slap your address on the top and call a courier!

Might cost you about £40 but it will be worth it!
This would be my option - let someone else move it for you - they'll have all the kit, so what you spend on someone else you'll save on hire costs!

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Old 07 May 2009, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Scooby Blue WRX
This would be my option - let someone else move it for you - they'll have all the kit, so what you spend on someone else you'll save on hire costs!

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Old 07 May 2009, 10:44 AM
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Moved a few in my time. As said you have to watch out, we once tilted a safe that promptly spewed acid out everywhere! Apparently this model had anti tilt viles, would have been good to know that first! Was scrapped there after due to the damage done.
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Try a bit more "jelly" than you would need to just open the door.

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