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Old 08 July 2008, 06:09 AM
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BBC NEWS | England | London | Mayor quashes £25 C-charge hike

A small victory for the motorist, lets hope Darling follows suit and drops his retrospective road tax rises for 2001- cars
Old 08 July 2008, 07:50 AM
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Expect Alistair says no we've got to find the money to waste from somewhere

Old 08 July 2008, 07:54 AM
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That's great news - bend over and pucker up Livinsgstone
Old 08 July 2008, 08:22 AM
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Yeah, I see Livingstone was intending to reduce congestion by getting rid of the charge for small cars. What a ****.
TfL now have to pay Porche's legal fees - cheers Ken.
And the guy still hangs around County Hall as a rent a quote type.
Some how I think we knew the guy had no dignity
Old 08 July 2008, 08:28 AM
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Whys Ken still sticking his beak in, for gods sake Boris needs to tell him to shut up.

The public f**ked him off so keep out of it.

At last a sprinkling of common sense.

Nice one Boris
Old 08 July 2008, 10:16 AM
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con·gest (kn-jst)
v. con·gest·ed, con·gest·ing, con·gests
v.tr.
1. To overfill or overcrowd: Trucks congested the tunnel.
2. Pathology To cause the accumulation of excessive blood or tissue fluid in (a vessel or organ).
v.intr.
To become congested.


Maybe someone should explain to Ken that the definition for congestion does not appear to contain nor allude to climate change.

If he introduced a congestion charge, then it is to limit the amount of traffic - no other reason.
Old 08 July 2008, 12:16 PM
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I think the real point in what Livingstone was saying was that he reckons London will lose revenue of £30-60 million from the motorist!

Les
Old 08 July 2008, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
I think the real point in what Livingstone was saying was that he reckons London will lose revenue of £30-60 million from the motorist!

Les
Which Livingstone would have binned on his "Projects" anyway, so no net loss.
Old 08 July 2008, 03:25 PM
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Lets not forget the pressure of Porsche putting their money where their mouth is, making a massive difference here. Well done Porsche, doing what so many talk about but don't actually do.
Old 08 July 2008, 07:16 PM
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Email I got from Porsche today ( I had registered my support as a Londoner for their campaign).

PORSCHE UPDATE ON JUDICIAL REVIEW PROCESS

July 2008

Legal campaign update -
Porsche wins victory in congestion charge challenge

Thank you very much for your support as we challenged Mayor Livingstone's proposed 25 congestion charge in London.
As you saw for yourself, the congestion charge was a major issue in the mayoral campaign and the candidate who opposed this extension, Boris Johnson, was elected Mayor.

I am pleased to inform you that, today, the Administrative Court in London has approved a consent order quashing the increase to the charge. The new Mayor's legal team accepted that the previous Mayoral administration should have taken into account research from King's College which showed that the new charge would actually increase CO2 emissions in Greater London and, consequently that the new charge could, in fact, be unlawful.

Porsche has always been confident that the legal case was right and now we are proud to have played a decisive role in striking down such a blatantly political tax targeting motorists.

It is expected that significant legal costs will be awarded and Porsche has decided to donate those costs to a fantastic charity called Skidz, which takes at-risk young people and trains them in motor vehicle maintenance and mechanics. This gives them the tools and confidence they need to find gainful employment and avoid a life of crime.

The support from Porsche will allow Skidz to open a facility in Hillingdon, providing this opportunity to young Londoners for the first time.

If you have any further comments or questions, you can contact Porsche directly by e-mail at judicial.review@porsche.co.uk or telephone 08457 911 911.

Thank you again for your support which was tremendously encouraging and important to the challenge.

Yours sincerely,

Andy Goss
Managing Director
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Old 08 July 2008, 09:04 PM
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so how much is the charge now then
Old 09 July 2008, 09:57 AM
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research from King's College which showed that the new charge would actually increase CO2 emissions in Greater London
Why would it have increased CO2 emissions?
Old 09 July 2008, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
Which Livingstone would have binned on his "Projects" anyway, so no net loss.
Except to the motorists J4CKO. He would love pissing it against the wall in true NL fashion of course.

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Old 09 July 2008, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Nimbus
Why would it have increased CO2 emissions?
Because low emission cars could travel for free. So it was suspected that the number of these types of car would increase significantly, increasing congestion and overall polution.
Old 09 July 2008, 11:59 AM
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Not only that, but also the fact that people may travel further around the edge of the zone to avoid entering it and having to pay a punitive charge.

Arguing about the CO2 impact is missing the point anyway though IMHO. We can always achieve a moderate reduction in emissions given enough money to throw at the issue; the £25 'congestion' charge was always going to be a laughable anomaly in any cost/benefit analysis.

Advocates of the charge also tend to look at any CO2 reduction in isolation, conveniently choosing to ignore the impact the charge would have had on owners of affected vehicles - not to mention businesses in the area.
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