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Old 16 October 2007, 06:53 PM
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Question Any doctors in the house RE: Co-codimol painkillers

Just been prescribed 500mg tablets of co-codimol for lower back pain after doing dead lifts. Now im allergic to absolutely everything and am terribly unsure whether to take these tablets as im in quite abit of pain. Last time i had a relaxant drug (sinus exam) which was suppose to be safe sprayed up my nose i was out for the count for a day and then it took me 3 weeks to recover, felt bloody terrible.

any advice would be great guys or gals
Old 16 October 2007, 07:00 PM
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One side effect is that it will make you constipated!

please note I am no doc
Old 16 October 2007, 07:03 PM
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i know that fella, been taking codein neurophen (sp) all week and i feel as though im giving birth lol..
Old 16 October 2007, 07:03 PM
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give up doing dead lifts
Old 16 October 2007, 07:05 PM
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there are 2 versions of cocod 32/500 and 8/500 the 500 is the amount of paracetamol in the tablet the other the amount of codeine in them (in mg) one thing is dont drink alcohol as they will knock you for 6 if your not used to them
Old 16 October 2007, 07:13 PM
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I can't take anything with codeine in as it almost knocks me out, pity it's one of the best painkillers.
Old 16 October 2007, 07:20 PM
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NOT a doc. I had these for back pain but I am fairly drug tolerant and had no probs. Pain went in about 4 days so I stopped taking them. As above about alcohol as after I had stopped them there was a fuss about them being life threatening for some people if mixed with a lot of booze. So take that bit seriously. They'll be lots of stuff on the info sheet in the box (the stuff I never read ) dl
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Originally Posted by scrappydoo
i know that fella, been taking codein neurophen (sp) all week and i feel as though im giving birth lol..
If you have already been taking codein without any allergy symptoms and you can take paracetamol ok then you should be fine.

I can't do codein or any NSAI's as they inflame my stomach, I have to take tramadol if paracetamol isn't strong enough.

Take something gentle like Lactulose solution to get your bowel moving!

Cheers
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Old 16 October 2007, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Lisawrx
I can't take anything with codeine in as it almost knocks me out, pity it's one of the best painkillers.
same for me, i'm allergic to it, and morphine
Old 16 October 2007, 07:36 PM
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Doesn't help that due to a stomach problem, I can't take any NSAIs either.
Old 16 October 2007, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Lisawrx
Doesn't help that due to a stomach problem, I can't take any NSAIs either.

Ask your Doctor about Tramadol if you can't do NSAI's or Codein.

Cheers
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Old 16 October 2007, 07:45 PM
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Tramadol (INN) (IPA: [ˈtræməˌdɒl]) is an atypical opioid which is a centrally acting analgesic, used for treating moderate to severe pain. It is a synthetic agent, as a 4-phenyl-piperidine analogue of codeine,[1][2] and appears to have actions on the GABAergic, noradrenergic and serotonergic systems. Tramadol was developed by the German pharmaceutical company Grünenthal GmbH and marketed under the trade name Tramal. Grünenthal has also cross licensed the drug to many other pharmaceutical companies that market it under various names.

Tramadol is usually marketed as the hydrochloride salt (tramadol hydrochloride) and is available in both injectable (intravenous and/or intramuscular) and oral preparations. It is also available in conjunction with paracetamol (acetaminophen).

Tramadol is approximately 10% as potent as morphine, when given by the IV/IM route. Oral doses range from 50–400 mg daily, with up to 600 mg daily when given IV/IM. The 'combination' pills each contain 37.5 mg of tramadol and 325 mg of paracetamol, with the recommended dose being one or two pills every four to six hours.

Unlike most other opioids, Tramadol is not considered a controlled substance in many countries (the U.S., Canada and Australia, among others), and is available with a normal prescription. Tramadol is also available over-the-counter without prescription in a few countries.
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Doesn't that make you sleepy too
Old 16 October 2007, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Lisawrx
Doesn't that make you sleepy too
No I seem to be OK on it. It really seems a step up from Paracetamol and doesn't upset my stomach like most drugs tend to do.

Cheers
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Old 16 October 2007, 08:11 PM
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Thanks for that
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go and see a chinese doctor like i do when i have bad back pain , worth every penny imo, 50 quid 1 hour few needles and a massage and you can do cart wheels down the street
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Old 16 October 2007, 08:30 PM
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I have used Co-codamol (dunno if its different) and that just makes me stupid lol
Old 16 October 2007, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobyschef
go and see a chinese doctor like i do when i have bad back pain , worth every penny imo, 50 quid 1 hour few needles and a massage and you can do cart wheels down the street
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jim
I'd rather have proper pills than tiger bollocks or rhino **** thank you. Seriously though alternative medicine does not stand up to scientific scrutiny in the same way as modern pharmaceutical methods.

Steve
Old 16 October 2007, 11:01 PM
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co-codamol makes me feel sick

I'm on di-hydrocodeine plus diazepam (Valium) for my back at the moment. I only take them when I'm having a bad back episode as they wack me out big time, even more so when combined with Stella (don't combine these drugs with alcohol or you are as stupid as me)
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Originally Posted by Steve Sherwen
I'd rather have proper pills than tiger bollocks or rhino **** thank you. Seriously though alternative medicine does not stand up to scientific scrutiny in the same way as modern pharmaceutical methods.

Steve
I agree with what you saying, after all I have worked in the pharma industry for 10 years conducting clinical trials, but there are some Chinese medicines that contain active ingredients look up Ma Huang for instance.

With respect to acupuncture, there is a proven placebo affect (ie one group had the needles injected into 'non' acupuncture points and the other had needles injected into recognised acupuncture points) both groups showed statistically equal results!!..

I was a total sceptic until I had acupuncture myself, it really did work albeit for a day at most when pain would return.
Old 17 October 2007, 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Jay m A
One side effect is that it will make you constipated!

please note I am no doc
Talking of side effects, the tablets I have for Cluster Headaches cause headaches, go figure
Old 17 October 2007, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by logiclee
Take something gentle like Lactulose solution to get your bowel moving!
Lee
Gentle? My ar$e! Last time I took some of that I had to really squeeze the sherrifs badge to stop my brain falling out!
Old 17 October 2007, 08:55 AM
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Co-codamol is only a stronger painkiller than normal paracetamol, aspirin etc... - its available from any chemist without prescription so isnt a really dodgy high power drug so isnt anything to worry about.

I take it when I get really bad headaches that normal paracetamol wouldnt touch.

Only real side effect I've heard of is that it can make some people feel sick, which is due to the Codeine in it.

OP - dont worry, it really isnt any different than taking a couple of Anadin or Neurofen etc... its just stronger so works better if you are in pain.

A good non drug cure for muscle pain is microwave hot water bottles - you can get them from Hotties - the home of heat and health ( they do a back wrap sort of thing as well ) - chuck them in the mic for a couple of minutes and they stay hot for around an hour - work very well for strained muscles.
Old 17 October 2007, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Norman D. Landing
Gentle? My ar$e! Last time I took some of that I had to really squeeze the sherrifs badge to stop my brain falling out!
Your not supposed to drink the bottle.

Cheers
Lee
Old 17 October 2007, 10:58 AM
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Co Codamol isn't all that strong.
Co-dydramol is a different matter.

I was a complete space cadet when I was on these a while back for a dislocated shoulder. Worked a treat though.
Old 17 October 2007, 11:06 AM
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I use Co-Dydramol and it is extremely effective. Co-Codamol tasted horrible and it did not work anything like as well as the other one.

Les
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Most co-codamol tablets contain very little codeine. A proper dose of codeine is about 60mg - I found it very helpful when I had back pain last year.
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You could always just take a half and see how you are, top it up with a normal paracetamol (remembering you can only have 8 of both in total in24 hours).

You can also get co-codamol in 15/500 strengths as well.

Co-dydramol is also available over the counter is usually thought to be of similar efficacy to co-cod 8/500.
Old 19 October 2007, 07:27 PM
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I've been taking di-hydrocodeine and tramadol 4 times a day as I fractured my sternum............. Don't remember a great deal about the last 2 weeks mind you lol
Old 20 October 2007, 01:42 AM
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Trust me - It's easy

HOT HOT Shower

Tabasco Sauce all over your lower back

Just don't rub your eyes or scratch your sack without washing your hands first !!
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