There is hope against speeding yet..
08 October 2007, 03:53 PM
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There is hope against speeding yet..
Other than not speeding that is.
Landmark case.
Boffin's Black Box Beats Cops' Speed Camera |Sky News|UK News
Landmark case.
Boffin's Black Box Beats Cops' Speed Camera |Sky News|UK News
08 October 2007, 03:57 PM
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Other than not speeding that is.
Landmark case.
Boffin's Black Box Beats Cops' Speed Camera |Sky News|UK News
Landmark case.
Boffin's Black Box Beats Cops' Speed Camera |Sky News|UK News
08 October 2007, 03:59 PM
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OR...
You are witnessing the Governments launch of a PR blitz to make people think "hey, fitting a black box to my car's a good thing!!" and "I'll be able to battle speeding tickets"
He Prof. Tann works for a government funded company, that are building these little black boxes
Nuff said....
You are witnessing the Governments launch of a PR blitz to make people think "hey, fitting a black box to my car's a good thing!!" and "I'll be able to battle speeding tickets"
He Prof. Tann works for a government funded company, that are building these little black boxes
Nuff said....
08 October 2007, 04:01 PM
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OR...
You are witnessing the Governments launch of a PR blitz to make people think "hey, fitting a black box to my car's a good thing!!" and "I'll be able to battle speeding tickets"
He Prof. Tann works for a government funded company, that are building these little black boxes
Nuff said....
You are witnessing the Governments launch of a PR blitz to make people think "hey, fitting a black box to my car's a good thing!!" and "I'll be able to battle speeding tickets"
He Prof. Tann works for a government funded company, that are building these little black boxes
Nuff said....
Fair point, but I guess it depends on data protection, access to the info etc.
08 October 2007, 04:18 PM
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Firstly, the guy proved he wasn't speeding - he didn't speed and get off with it, which is what most here would like to do.
But secondly, it seems a bit odd that the cops clocked him at 42 but he proved he was doing 29. That's a hell of an error...
But secondly, it seems a bit odd that the cops clocked him at 42 but he proved he was doing 29. That's a hell of an error...
08 October 2007, 04:20 PM
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Nice to see an open admission though that the guns are not as acurate as some would have you believe.
08 October 2007, 04:22 PM
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Not sure what you mean by "hope against speeding"?
Do you not agree that speeding in general is a bad thing, and althou there are times and places it is safe to speed, lots of areas are not.
He was in a 30MPh zone, if he was in fact speeding in a 30 then it's not really something we should want to get away with.
Speeding generally is a bad thing, you are obviously one of those who thinks they should be able to speed because they recon they're Michael Schumacher. Speeding isnt the onyl cause of accidents but ive no doubt it contributes in many accidents, and especially in 30MPh areas I dont think we should hope for the chance to get away with speeding.
Do you not agree that speeding in general is a bad thing, and althou there are times and places it is safe to speed, lots of areas are not.
He was in a 30MPh zone, if he was in fact speeding in a 30 then it's not really something we should want to get away with.
Speeding generally is a bad thing, you are obviously one of those who thinks they should be able to speed because they recon they're Michael Schumacher. Speeding isnt the onyl cause of accidents but ive no doubt it contributes in many accidents, and especially in 30MPh areas I dont think we should hope for the chance to get away with speeding.
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08 October 2007, 04:24 PM
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Not sure what you mean by "hope against speeding"?
Do you not agree that speeding in general is a good thing, and althou there are times and places it is safe to speed, lots of areas are not.
He was in a 30MPh zone, if he was in fact speeding in a 30 then it's not really something we should want to get away with.
Speeding generally is a bad thing, you are obviously one of those who thinks they should be able to speed because they recon they're Michael Schumacher. Speeding isnt the onyl cause of accidents but ive no doubt it contributes in many accidents, and especially in 30MPh areas I dont think we should hope for the chance to get away with speeding.
Do you not agree that speeding in general is a good thing, and althou there are times and places it is safe to speed, lots of areas are not.
He was in a 30MPh zone, if he was in fact speeding in a 30 then it's not really something we should want to get away with.
Speeding generally is a bad thing, you are obviously one of those who thinks they should be able to speed because they recon they're Michael Schumacher. Speeding isnt the onyl cause of accidents but ive no doubt it contributes in many accidents, and especially in 30MPh areas I dont think we should hope for the chance to get away with speeding.
There are some very uncertain cases out there, this being one of them.
Its nice to have something that is recognised by the courts as an accurate record of your speed, rather than being told it and accepting it.
Im not saying for one second that everyone should get one and flaunt the law
08 October 2007, 05:34 PM
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I think what he means is 'hope against false accusations of speeding".
I'm sure that, whatever your views on the topic, you'd have to agree prosecutions based on inaccurate evidence are a bad thing. Law abiding citizens shouldn't have to worry about being prosecuted - but we do
I'm sure that, whatever your views on the topic, you'd have to agree prosecutions based on inaccurate evidence are a bad thing. Law abiding citizens shouldn't have to worry about being prosecuted - but we do
08 October 2007, 05:38 PM
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I think what he means is 'hope against false accusations of speeding".
I'm sure that, whatever your views on the topic, you'd have to agree prosecutions based on inaccurate evidence are a bad thing. Law abiding citizens shouldn't have to worry about being prosecuted - but we do
I'm sure that, whatever your views on the topic, you'd have to agree prosecutions based on inaccurate evidence are a bad thing. Law abiding citizens shouldn't have to worry about being prosecuted - but we do
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Spot on to what I mean.
08 October 2007, 05:48 PM
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Sideshowbob, speed limits:
"Laws are rules to fools but guidelines to wise men".
I always have and always will treat speed limits as guidelines. In conditions whereby driving to the limit would be dangerous I'll slow down, and the reverse for good conditions. Witness a clearish motorway on a good day and not many stick to the pathetic 70 limit.
"Laws are rules to fools but guidelines to wise men".
I always have and always will treat speed limits as guidelines. In conditions whereby driving to the limit would be dangerous I'll slow down, and the reverse for good conditions. Witness a clearish motorway on a good day and not many stick to the pathetic 70 limit.
08 October 2007, 07:56 PM
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lol 
I hope he sues them for libel/slander (I never know the difference):
If they could prove it, then why the bloody hell did they drop the case!! 
Lies and spin, spin and lies
I hope he sues them for libel/slander (I never know the difference):
Their spokesman Jeremy Forsberg said: "Speed kills, and we can prove he was driving too fast in a built up area where there are lots of pedestrians likely to be crossing the road."
Lies and spin, spin and lies
08 October 2007, 08:03 PM
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lots of pedestrians likely to be crossing the road
Would you go to a jungle and moan about a lion eating you? 
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The Boffin is a total nutter, or as has been suggested, a government plant.
Six decimal places of accuracy (not precision) from a GPS or GSM based device is total bollox!!!!!
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Six decimal places of accuracy (not precision) from a GPS or GSM based device is total bollox!!!!!
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09 October 2007, 11:05 AM
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I personally do not accept that radar cameras are reliable and accurate enough to convict of speeding safely. The fairest way is with a copper following for a minimum distance using a calibrated speedometer.
I also do not agree with driving at speeds well above the speed limit on today's crowded public roads. Three figure speeds are well beyond the pale in my opinion.
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09 October 2007, 11:40 AM
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The irony is that the Gatso uses an average speed as evidence (distance over time)
09 October 2007, 12:54 PM
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The Specs cameras do measure average speed in between more than one camera. Does not really tie in with the statement by the police when you think about it.
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10 October 2007, 10:55 PM
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