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Bit of background-no sniggers at back please.....

My toilet upstairs when u have a number 2 in it-is useless at flushing away the evidence , can take 4, 5 or 6 flushes etc ... not good....anyway in studying it when it flushed instead of getting a good wave of water hitting the pan it just goes down the sides causing the contents to swirl round instead of being pushed out towards the u-bend etc and on their merry way, its always been a crap flusher( no pun intended since new).

In studying the design of the toilet from the outside i notice that is this useless flushing caused by a narrowing of the exit pipe as it goes up round u-bend causing water rather then flowing out to swirl round pan, or is it the design of under the rim so as water enters it comes down in wrong flow form? so instead of gushing round under rim to meet in middle at front where u then get a good wave flow into pan and a rapid exit of number 2's.

Just one last observation-in looking at contents of toilet bowl after a flushing it seems to get rid of the number 2 but its the toilet paper that hangs about-still not good tho is that-trust me.....

So any toilet specialists on here with a view on designs of toilet and what makes a good flusher so i know what to look for when going to buy a new one? any recommendations?

this is a serious enquiry as i have lady friends coming to house and its not a good way of opening up welcoming them to house by saying if u use loo make sure u flush it half a dozen times before leaving room as i dont want to see your turtles floating in there.....


Serious replies only please from knowledgable folk

carl

TBH you always used to get a better flush from the ones with the tank mounted high on the wall and a chain.

OllyK

Also check the way it connects to the 4" waste pipe. When we changed the loo we had to put a couple of offsets on due to the new toilet outlet being a bit higher than the old one. This does cause some constriction which can be an issue. The other toilet I fitted was over vigourous, so water splashed over the top of the rim, I had to put a restrictor in between the tank and bowl to reduce the flow slightly, that one seems to work fine.

^OPM^

interesting reading.thanks

^OPM^

but i have a close coupled one and wish to stay that way-old toilet years ago used to flush fine.

^OPM^

it connects to waste pipe in a direct straight line so no probs there-is it bowl bit that is causing rubbish flush or the tank bit as in the siphon parts?

davegtt

I put it down to the size of the cistern to be honest.

POC

Might be an idea to check that your soil pipe vent at the top of the house isnt blocked, the pipe needs air behind the water to make it flow

bonerp

thats the best thread I've read for a long time! Been pissing myself over it ;-P

DCI Gene Hunt

Try adjusting the cistern fill level (ball-****), an inch more water will probably help flush those turds & loo paper right out of your life........

lordharding

iTrader: (1)

Its amazing about some of the crap we talk about on scobynet


my pet hates in all the propertys I owned over the years is wobbly seats despite tightening the bolts they still used to wobble so when i bought my final and retirement home aonly the very best Villaroy & boch toiley was the only one for me

and it never wobles and everything goes down in one powerfull flush

OllyK

Try some of the other things mentioned
- Check level of water in cistern
- Check if it's a dual flush, i.e. quick pull for a short flush, pull and hold for long.
- Check venting on the outside waster pipe
- Check if a restrictor has been put in the pipe between cistern and bowl, may be a pain to get to if close coupled, turn off supply, flush to drain cistern, undo coupling bolts and lift cistern free, usually find a metal or plastic pipe that is attached to the cistern drops in to a hole in the bowl, look in the pipe part for a big rubber washer or a screwed on ristriction nut.

DCI Gene Hunt

Have smaller poo's.... and go continental by placing your skiddy loo paper in a nice wicker basket

^OPM^

-i honestly think its shape of toilet but not sure wether its the cistern part of bowl part-starting to p.iss me off now

Thanks for replies so far-anymore?

OllyK

All I can suggest is take a crap at work, at least you get paid to do it there

^OPM^

oh i do on a regular basis-good job the toilets there are superb flushers-get a right tidal wave going down pan-need it sometimes mind u

Abdabz

Arise Sir Alan of Partridge when he said this "On making a documentary for canal boats: ‘This chemical toilet is a Saniflow 33, now this little babe can cope with anything, and I mean anything. Earlier on I put in a pound of mashed up Dundee cake, let's take a look...not a trace! Peace of mind I'm sure, especially if you have elderly relatives on board.’ "

I think this answers the question

Brit_in_Japan

There was a design programme on the BBC some years ago where a couple of industrial designers went back to the drawing board to come up with radical new designs for household items. In one episode they came up with a jug kettle which sat on a base unit with centralised power connection, so you could put the kettle down in any orientation w.r.t the base, large spout for filling up with water rather than taking a lid off etc. It was revolutionary then, but is now regarded as standard design!

I digress. Another episode was about toilets. They looked into it from different perspectives, what women do/don't want, what men did/didn't want (e.g. no "splashback"!), disposal efficiency, water efficiecny etc. They found that water velocity was much more important than water volume when it came to disposal efficiency. What gives velocity is the pressure head of the water in the cistern, i.e. your great grannies old toilet with the cistern mounted up near the ceiling was much more efficient than the modern designs. You can get rid of the waste better and with less water with a cistern mounted high up. What makes a good toilet? High velocity