What a FARCE!
24 January 2007, 08:01 AM
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What a FARCE!
BBC NEWS | UK | Limit jail sentences, urges Reid
NL really have messed up this country. Crime is clearly high for us to be in this situation yet they won't BUILD MORE JAILS. What a mess.
But hey! It's not all bad, if you're a criminal, you'll be laughing, little chance of being banged up.
NL really have messed up this country. Crime is clearly high for us to be in this situation yet they won't BUILD MORE JAILS. What a mess.
But hey! It's not all bad, if you're a criminal, you'll be laughing, little chance of being banged up.
24 January 2007, 08:48 AM
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BBC NEWS | UK | Limit jail sentences, urges Reid
NL really have messed up this country. Crime is clearly high for us to be in this situation yet they won't BUILD MORE JAILS. What a mess.
But hey! It's not all bad, if you're a criminal, you'll be laughing, little chance of being banged up.
NL really have messed up this country. Crime is clearly high for us to be in this situation yet they won't BUILD MORE JAILS. What a mess.
But hey! It's not all bad, if you're a criminal, you'll be laughing, little chance of being banged up.
It reads like a script from a farcial comedy!
Only left wing loonies could see any sense in this course of action.
I do despair!
24 January 2007, 09:00 AM
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this country is well and truly down the sh*tter these people are criminals and have no rights so bang em up 5 or 6 to cell and the prisons as horrible as possible absolutly no luxuries just 3 meals a day and stare at the grey walls, if you did that for a few years you would certainly think twice about committing another crime
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no need to build more jails, the way I see it there are a few options.
The people who get jailed for not paying council tax and petty things etc, release them that will free up more space for the hardened crims
2nd option and this is my favoured option, all the people in our prisons who are guilty of murder and their guilt is beyond doubt, then simply execute them. This will save on their tv and playstations, and their general upkeep. Again this will free up space and save the government money which can then be used in better education which in effect should then help with future levels of crime.
The people who get jailed for not paying council tax and petty things etc, release them that will free up more space for the hardened crims
2nd option and this is my favoured option, all the people in our prisons who are guilty of murder and their guilt is beyond doubt, then simply execute them. This will save on their tv and playstations, and their general upkeep. Again this will free up space and save the government money which can then be used in better education which in effect should then help with future levels of crime.
24 January 2007, 11:37 AM
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About three months ago Reid saw this coming, and went cap-in-hand to the Treasury to ask for money to build some new jails and extend others.
The scruffy Scotch Pension-thief/PM in waiting saw him off...........then went the next day and sent £100 million to Afghanistan to help them rebuild
You couldn't make it up...........
Alcazar
The scruffy Scotch Pension-thief/PM in waiting saw him off...........then went the next day and sent £100 million to Afghanistan to help them rebuild
You couldn't make it up...........
Alcazar
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24 January 2007, 12:38 PM
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Labour Manifesto
1997
We will be tough on crime and tough on the causes of crime
Fast-track punishment for persistent young offenders
Reform Crown Prosecution Service to convict more criminals
Police on the beat not pushing paper
Crackdown on petty crimes and neighbourhood disorder
Fresh parliamentary vote to ban all handguns
Under the Conservatives, crime has doubled and many more criminals get away with their crimes: the number of people convicted has fallen by a third, with only one crime in 50 leading to a conviction. This is the worst record of any government since the Second World War - and for England and Wales the worst record of any major industrialised country. Last year alone violent crime rose 11 per cent.
We propose a new approach to law and order: tough on crime and tough on the causes of crime. We insist on individual responsibility for crime, and will attack the causes of crime by our measures to relieve social deprivation.
The police have our strong support. They are in the front line of the fight against crime and disorder. The Conservatives have broken their 1992 general election pledge to provide an extra 1,000 police officers. We will relieve the police of unnecessary bureaucratic burdens to get more officers back on the beat.
2001
Renewing public services: criminal justice reform
New Labour believes that crime can only be cut by dealing with the causes of crime as well as being tough on criminals
We plan the most comprehensive reform of the criminal justice system since the war - to catch, convict, punish and rehabilitate more of the 100,000 persistent offenders. Our ten-year goal is a modernised criminal justice system with the burglary rate halved.
We will now:
overhaul sentencing so that persistent offending results in more severe punishment
reform custodial sentences so that every offender gets punishment and rehabilitation designed to minimise reoffending
reform rules of evidence to simplify trials and bring the guilty to justice
introduce specialist, late-sitting and review courts to reflect crime patterns and properly monitor offenders
establish a new Criminal Assets Recovery Agency to seize assets of crime barons and a register of dealers to tackle drugs
introduce a victims bill of rights providing legal rights to compensation, support and information
2005
Punishing criminals, reducing offending
As court sentences have got tougher, we have built over 16,000 moreoffenders will now be detained in custody indefinitely and our 2003 Criminal Justice Act confirmed that life sentences must mean life for the most heinous murders.Where significant new evidence comes to light we have abolished the ‘double jeopardy’ rule so that serious criminals who have been unjustly acquitted can be tried again. And we will introduce much tougher penalties for those who cause death by careless driving or who kill while driving without a licence or while disqualified.
We will tackle reoffending. By 2007 every offender will be supervised after release; we will increase the use of electronic tagging; and we will test the use of compulsory lie detector tests to monitor convicted sex offenders. Our new National Offender Management Service will ensure that every offender is individually case-managed from beginning to end of their sentence, both in and out of custody – with increased effort targeted on drugs treatment, education and basic skills training to reduce reoffending. Voluntary organisations and the private sector will be offered greater opportunities to deliver offender services and we will give local people a greater say in shaping community punishment.
Making sure crime does not pay
Those who commit crimes should not profit from them. Already we have introduced laws that enable the courts to confiscate the assets and property of drug dealers and other major criminals.We will enable the police and prosecuting authorities to keep at least half of all the criminal assets they seize to fund local crime-fighting priorities.And we will develop new proposals to ensure that criminals are not able to profit from publishing books about their crimes. In addition we will support magistrates effectively in fighting crime and improve the enforcement of court decisions – including the payment of fines.
Where a defendant fails to turn up for court without good excuse,the presumption should be that the trial and sentencing should go ahead anyway.
1997
We will be tough on crime and tough on the causes of crime
Fast-track punishment for persistent young offenders
Reform Crown Prosecution Service to convict more criminals
Police on the beat not pushing paper
Crackdown on petty crimes and neighbourhood disorder
Fresh parliamentary vote to ban all handguns
Under the Conservatives, crime has doubled and many more criminals get away with their crimes: the number of people convicted has fallen by a third, with only one crime in 50 leading to a conviction. This is the worst record of any government since the Second World War - and for England and Wales the worst record of any major industrialised country. Last year alone violent crime rose 11 per cent.
We propose a new approach to law and order: tough on crime and tough on the causes of crime. We insist on individual responsibility for crime, and will attack the causes of crime by our measures to relieve social deprivation.
The police have our strong support. They are in the front line of the fight against crime and disorder. The Conservatives have broken their 1992 general election pledge to provide an extra 1,000 police officers. We will relieve the police of unnecessary bureaucratic burdens to get more officers back on the beat.
2001
Renewing public services: criminal justice reform
New Labour believes that crime can only be cut by dealing with the causes of crime as well as being tough on criminals
We plan the most comprehensive reform of the criminal justice system since the war - to catch, convict, punish and rehabilitate more of the 100,000 persistent offenders. Our ten-year goal is a modernised criminal justice system with the burglary rate halved.
We will now:
overhaul sentencing so that persistent offending results in more severe punishment
reform custodial sentences so that every offender gets punishment and rehabilitation designed to minimise reoffending
reform rules of evidence to simplify trials and bring the guilty to justice
introduce specialist, late-sitting and review courts to reflect crime patterns and properly monitor offenders
establish a new Criminal Assets Recovery Agency to seize assets of crime barons and a register of dealers to tackle drugs
introduce a victims bill of rights providing legal rights to compensation, support and information
2005
Punishing criminals, reducing offending
As court sentences have got tougher, we have built over 16,000 moreoffenders will now be detained in custody indefinitely and our 2003 Criminal Justice Act confirmed that life sentences must mean life for the most heinous murders.Where significant new evidence comes to light we have abolished the ‘double jeopardy’ rule so that serious criminals who have been unjustly acquitted can be tried again. And we will introduce much tougher penalties for those who cause death by careless driving or who kill while driving without a licence or while disqualified.
We will tackle reoffending. By 2007 every offender will be supervised after release; we will increase the use of electronic tagging; and we will test the use of compulsory lie detector tests to monitor convicted sex offenders. Our new National Offender Management Service will ensure that every offender is individually case-managed from beginning to end of their sentence, both in and out of custody – with increased effort targeted on drugs treatment, education and basic skills training to reduce reoffending. Voluntary organisations and the private sector will be offered greater opportunities to deliver offender services and we will give local people a greater say in shaping community punishment.
Making sure crime does not pay
Those who commit crimes should not profit from them. Already we have introduced laws that enable the courts to confiscate the assets and property of drug dealers and other major criminals.We will enable the police and prosecuting authorities to keep at least half of all the criminal assets they seize to fund local crime-fighting priorities.And we will develop new proposals to ensure that criminals are not able to profit from publishing books about their crimes. In addition we will support magistrates effectively in fighting crime and improve the enforcement of court decisions – including the payment of fines.
Where a defendant fails to turn up for court without good excuse,the presumption should be that the trial and sentencing should go ahead anyway.
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24 January 2007, 01:56 PM
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And we will introduce much tougher penalties for those who cause death by careless driving or who kill while driving without a licence or while disqualified.
The last three I know of, all illegals, all with no license, tax, mot or insurance, got 7 months or less, so WTF would they have got before the "tougher penalties?"
Lying Labour, at it again
Alcazar
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