Christmas ISN'T banned
08 December 2006, 10:11 AM
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Christmas ISN'T banned
Some stories chased up - and they evaporate. But I'm sure NSR will ignore this, and carry on reading the Daily Mail...
"Perhaps the most notorious of the anti-Christmas rebrandings is Winterval, in Birmingham, and when you telephone the Birmingham city council press office to ask about it, you are met first of all with a silence that might seasonably be described as frosty. "We get this every year," a press officer sighs, eventually. "It just depends how many rogue journalists you get in any given year. We tell them it's bollocks, but it doesn't seem to make much difference.""
And as for the survey about Christmas decorations being banned:
"This week's survey by the employment law firm Peninsula, suggesting that 74% of British employers have banned Christmas decorations for fear of offending non-Christians, seems similarly beset with problems. Even the Christian Muslim Forum accepts that the key question - "Do you admit to banning Christmas decorations because you are worried about offending other faiths?" - seems pointedly phrased, and several follow-up questions seem designed to steer respondents in an anti-Christmas direction. Even if the fear is real, one might reasonably attribute it precisely to the newspapers' provocative campaigns against the alleged War on Christmas. (After all - as everyone involved in the argument agrees - it's not as if there's any track record of anybody actually taking legal action because they were offended.) Finally, the survey asks: "Are you aware of your legal requirement to celebrate all faiths?" But according to the conciliation service Acas, there is no such obligation."
The phoney war on Christmas | Special reports | Guardian Unlimited
"Perhaps the most notorious of the anti-Christmas rebrandings is Winterval, in Birmingham, and when you telephone the Birmingham city council press office to ask about it, you are met first of all with a silence that might seasonably be described as frosty. "We get this every year," a press officer sighs, eventually. "It just depends how many rogue journalists you get in any given year. We tell them it's bollocks, but it doesn't seem to make much difference.""
And as for the survey about Christmas decorations being banned:
"This week's survey by the employment law firm Peninsula, suggesting that 74% of British employers have banned Christmas decorations for fear of offending non-Christians, seems similarly beset with problems. Even the Christian Muslim Forum accepts that the key question - "Do you admit to banning Christmas decorations because you are worried about offending other faiths?" - seems pointedly phrased, and several follow-up questions seem designed to steer respondents in an anti-Christmas direction. Even if the fear is real, one might reasonably attribute it precisely to the newspapers' provocative campaigns against the alleged War on Christmas. (After all - as everyone involved in the argument agrees - it's not as if there's any track record of anybody actually taking legal action because they were offended.) Finally, the survey asks: "Are you aware of your legal requirement to celebrate all faiths?" But according to the conciliation service Acas, there is no such obligation."
The phoney war on Christmas | Special reports | Guardian Unlimited
08 December 2006, 10:40 AM
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If its in the guardian it must be true 
. Guardian readers are precisely why we're in the ****ter with all this human rights. bleading liberal homos hang em i say 
. Guardian readers are precisely why we're in the ****ter with all this human rights. bleading liberal homos hang em i say
08 December 2006, 10:40 AM
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Looks to me like webbie has declared war on Christmas by not turning on the Scoobnet Christmas lights.... Maybe he doesn't want to offend anybody? 
Ask him a PS3 question or tell him you want to advertise and im sure you will get an instant answer
I got an idea, tell webby you want to sponser NSR but your company sells xmas lights
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08 December 2006, 11:05 AM
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I got an idea, tell webby you want to sponser NSR but your company sells xmas lights
08 December 2006, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by SJ_Skyline
I'm surprised NSR isn't sponsored by the Daily Mail
Its got pretty bad in here now for that.
08 December 2006, 11:19 AM
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But that's just one liberal PC lefty's opinion - in the Guardian of all places 
Still as we are freely cutting and pasting from the article this paragraph seems to sum up the situation more accurately:
The Campaign Against Political Correctness, headquartered in Kennington in south London, bases its pitch to potential members on the argument that Britain is approaching boiling-point in the backlash against misguided attempts to avoid offending minorities. (Its website features several heroes of the anti-PC movement, including Jim Davidson, "22-year-old rapper Plan B", and Sir Cliff Richard, who says that "this whole PC thing bugs me like mad", as well as Bruce Forsyth, who is praised for not bowing to pressure, from unspecified sources, to avoid using the word "nitty-gritty" on air.) "The difference now is that people are angry about it," says Philip Davies, the Conservative MP for Shipley, who is the campaign's parliamentary spokesman and a loud critic of the War on Christmas. "People used to laugh about it, but that's changed ... they're angry with white, middle-class liberal do-gooders with some kind of guilt complex and too much time on their hands."
A great quote from their website:
DID YOU KNOW.....that a recent study calculated that 73 per cent of Britons are members of officially recognised “victim groups”, including the disabled, women, ethnic minorities and homosexuals? Are we really all victims? Are you happy to carry on being treated like a victim?
Still as we are freely cutting and pasting from the article this paragraph seems to sum up the situation more accurately:
The Campaign Against Political Correctness, headquartered in Kennington in south London, bases its pitch to potential members on the argument that Britain is approaching boiling-point in the backlash against misguided attempts to avoid offending minorities. (Its website features several heroes of the anti-PC movement, including Jim Davidson, "22-year-old rapper Plan B", and Sir Cliff Richard, who says that "this whole PC thing bugs me like mad", as well as Bruce Forsyth, who is praised for not bowing to pressure, from unspecified sources, to avoid using the word "nitty-gritty" on air.) "The difference now is that people are angry about it," says Philip Davies, the Conservative MP for Shipley, who is the campaign's parliamentary spokesman and a loud critic of the War on Christmas. "People used to laugh about it, but that's changed ... they're angry with white, middle-class liberal do-gooders with some kind of guilt complex and too much time on their hands."
A great quote from their website:
DID YOU KNOW.....that a recent study calculated that 73 per cent of Britons are members of officially recognised “victim groups”, including the disabled, women, ethnic minorities and homosexuals? Are we really all victims? Are you happy to carry on being treated like a victim?
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08 December 2006, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
But that's just one liberal PC lefty's opinion - in the Guardian of all places
Still as we are freely cutting and pasting from the article this paragraph seems to sum up the situation more accurately:
The Campaign Against Political Correctness, headquartered in Kennington in south London, bases its pitch to potential members on the argument that Britain is approaching boiling-point in the backlash against misguided attempts to avoid offending minorities. (Its website features several heroes of the anti-PC movement, including Jim Davidson, "22-year-old rapper Plan B", and Sir Cliff Richard, who says that "this whole PC thing bugs me like mad", as well as Bruce Forsyth, who is praised for not bowing to pressure, from unspecified sources, to avoid using the word "nitty-gritty" on air.) "The difference now is that people are angry about it," says Philip Davies, the Conservative MP for Shipley, who is the campaign's parliamentary spokesman and a loud critic of the War on Christmas. "People used to laugh about it, but that's changed ... they're angry with white, middle-class liberal do-gooders with some kind of guilt complex and too much time on their hands."
Still as we are freely cutting and pasting from the article this paragraph seems to sum up the situation more accurately:
The Campaign Against Political Correctness, headquartered in Kennington in south London, bases its pitch to potential members on the argument that Britain is approaching boiling-point in the backlash against misguided attempts to avoid offending minorities. (Its website features several heroes of the anti-PC movement, including Jim Davidson, "22-year-old rapper Plan B", and Sir Cliff Richard, who says that "this whole PC thing bugs me like mad", as well as Bruce Forsyth, who is praised for not bowing to pressure, from unspecified sources, to avoid using the word "nitty-gritty" on air.) "The difference now is that people are angry about it," says Philip Davies, the Conservative MP for Shipley, who is the campaign's parliamentary spokesman and a loud critic of the War on Christmas. "People used to laugh about it, but that's changed ... they're angry with white, middle-class liberal do-gooders with some kind of guilt complex and too much time on their hands."
Spot on UB!
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If the Sun or Mail are the chav rags
The Guardian is really the read of the PC liberal do-gooders who feel guilty for everything want to put it right but have no common sense or perspective. The sad thing is the PC fools think they really have a mission and sometimes the power and influence to do something about it - i class these fools as a real problem to society as well
TBH i take everything written within these rags with a pinch of salt, Guardian included mate!
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08 December 2006, 11:42 AM
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Paul, as I've said before, I take all newspapers with a pinch of salt, Grauniad quite definitely included. But when someone appears to have actually tried to find out the facts behind a popular story, rather than just regurgitating urban myths, I think it's worth letting people know them. However, if you folks (and Sir Cliff Richard) want to carry on raising your blood pressure over something that is actually baseless, don't let me stop you - it'll be your heart attack, not mine.
Remarkable as it may seem, there are plenty of Guardian articles that I don't put up here, as they are as biased as the rest of them. The above was one I thought seemed exceptional and thus deserving of dissemination. Hey, even you and UB seemed to agree with part of it
Remarkable as it may seem, there are plenty of Guardian articles that I don't put up here, as they are as biased as the rest of them. The above was one I thought seemed exceptional and thus deserving of dissemination. Hey, even you and UB seemed to agree with part of it
08 December 2006, 12:29 PM
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I would've thought that most of the Daily Mail lot would be anti-Christmas ...seeing as most of the traditions we associate with it were bought in by pesky German Immigrants
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