orbix

Did you see the poor bloke that had come off his motorbike and severed his ankle. His bone was sticking out and obviously he had lost a lot of blood.
The paramedics had to get to him on foot as he was 2 miles away from the nearest road on a dirt track.
They were now faced with a problem, how to get him quickly to hospital
They could carry him to the road, if they managed an average of 5mph it would only take approx 24 mins
But wait hold on looks who's here... the Sky Cops well I take back everything I said about where is a cop when you need one.
Now they can fly him to the hospital and hopefully he won’t loose his leg or even die
But hold on, whats that you say jobsworth you can’t fly him because it’s not to protocol.
Thought it might be too good to be true a member of the police service actually providing a useful service.
Oh you can take him to the hospital but you must be absolutely sure it’s a life or death situation. Yeah wouldn’t want to waste taxpayers fuel on a taxpayer, as you have more important things to do like chasing kids on motorbikes over fields.

Just wanted to get that off my chest.

EVOLUTION

pauls gonna be on here in a moment to rip this to bits......



for the record, they are mostly a complete waste of my money

Vonzack

Agreed, why did they bother to turn out and land, if they would then only take him if he was going to die.

What about the pilot who decided not to fly because his helmet was hurting him, oh and it wasn't just because of the padding, no it was obviously broken as it couldn't take the weight of somebody standing on it.

Glad I don't live in S.Yorks and have to pay for that shower.

richs2891

The standing on the helmet bit made me laugh - seem a very obvious way to get a new helmet to me ! Cant understand how a helmet would suddenly not fit though !
Their method seems a very expensive way of tackling the problem motorcyles to me !

Richard

kingofturds

iTrader: (1)

They should mount a couple of M-134 7.62mm miniguns onto the helicopter. and fire a few warning shots in front of those tossers on bikes. they would soon give up then.

Wish

iTrader: (2)

All that money to chase little scumbags from the Air.

Couple of Police onroad off road bike will be enough to catch them.
No need for a £xx million helicopter.

Flatcapdriver

First off, the viewer was at the scene long before the helicopter arrived and if I was being filmed (in that situation) I'd make damn sure I wasn't breaching any flight safety rules which was all the techead was doing. Once it was established that it was a life or death situation then they evacuated him.

Secondly, this is a Police unit. It's there to catch criminals, not act as an ambulance. The question you should be asking, is why the Air Ambulance wasn't operational after 21.00.

If that evacuation had gone **** up, the pilot would lose his licence, income and way of life once the CAA had finished with him.

Blaming his crew for the weather and inciting them to question his command was a strange decision to make though - alongside the helmet incident.

orbix

Did doesn't really matter who was at the scene, it was only the police that had the means at that time to get him to hospital quickly.

Sorry mate would love to save your life only I might loose my licence sorry, maybe if I close my eyes the whole problem will disappear. If only more people had this attitude.

The Trooper 1815

iTrader: (31)

Let's not forget the fire station with no pole because of health and safety. PC gone mad again!

scoobynutta555

You mean lose not loose.

Sorry, just wanted to get that off my chest too.

m1maniac

as for off road bikers i agree if they riding in a public area and causing a nuisance are likely to injure people but on vacaant spare redundant ground then let them use it it keeps em off the strrets and parks.. i my self used to ride mx on dissused sand quarry in worksop till the moved us on also the desert in rainworth give em a place to ride safer tha chasing the ******* in the streets also if they havent got a helmet on they not allowed to chase (pmsl about this law)

Paul3446

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pauls gonna be on here in a moment to rip this to bits......
for the record, they are mostly a complete waste of my money

Flatcapdriver

Oh, for ****'s sake grow up. There are rules and regulations in place for very good reasons. That helicopter was not fitted out propertly for HEMS type operations, a result of which requires approval not only because an observer had to deplane but also due to the lack of proper medical equipment on board. You have to draw the line somewhere.

orbix

Can't agree, I would bend over backwards to save someones life.
The only people to "draw lines" are the ones holding the cheque books.

Flatcapdriver

Whether you agree or not is irrelevant. IT IS THE LAW!

Look under CAP 612, Appendix A.

If the aircraft commander does not follow these principles, which according to you he shouldn't then where does it end? Would you be happy if the flight commander of your charter flight decided to have a few pints prior to the flight? I doubt you'd be so happy for him to ignore the 12 hour bottle to throttle rules would you?

I suggest you refrain from commenting on subjects you know nothing about, or at least have the decency to admit you're wrong.

Paul3446

Blimey steady on old chap!

TimmyboyWRX

holy multiple postings batman! lol

orbix

Yep I am wrong don't lift a finger to help anybody just let them die as long your jobs safe thats all that matters

AndiThompson

Well that wouldn't happen would it, because like you say, if it was a case of saving someones life, then they'd do it. And they did. So what are you whinging about?

SteveScooby

iTrader: (2)

He was never going to let them die though was he.

he said something along the lines of "if it's life or death i'll take him, if not i won't"

Nido

Because the ******* government won't fund them to do so

NotoriousREV

As an aside: how does that helicopter work without a tail rotor? I though they had to have one to stop them spinning out of control?

NotoriousREV

Never mind, Wikipedia came to my rescue

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOTAR

Flatcapdriver

So don't blame the Police then. Sorry for the multiple postings - dunno what went wrong there but everything's gone pear shaped since I changed ISPs.

GC8

SY99 is obliged to carry casualties. Air-ambulance cover was one of the 'benefits' used to sell the idea to us in the first place. Other forces have one observer from the local NHS Ambulance trust, but even though SY99 has provision for a stretcher, I think that both observers are PCs: fancy that eh?

Simon