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Old 17 August 2006, 09:28 PM
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Does anyone else find this a little alarming:

http://www.leavethemkidsalone.com/
Old 17 August 2006, 09:39 PM
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very.

some drama queen has got far too much time on their hands.

Ive been involved in a number of biometrics based initiatives in schools which dont bear any relation to the nonsense on there
Old 17 August 2006, 09:45 PM
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"When an opponent declares, 'I will not come over to your side', I calmly say, 'Your child belongs to us already..." Anon (1933)

Cool... trolling before trolling was invented.

Old 18 August 2006, 01:40 PM
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whats the problem ?? its only a problem to those who have something to hide
Old 18 August 2006, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by rgv_stu
whats the problem ?? its only a problem to those who have something to hide
Why would you need to routinely fingerprint 7 year olds?

If you have nothing to hide, can you send me your finger prints on an acetate please I can make good use of them. Oh and if you want to send me you credit card numbers, expiry dates etc I can find a use for those as well.
Old 18 August 2006, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
Why would you need to routinely fingerprint 7 year olds?
So the Government can get all your information on record. How dare we as citizens have a right to Freedom ?

They can't make us Adults routinely give our fingerprints / DNA, but do it to our kids at school where the Parents have no idea, and you get all the information you need.

I have nothing to hide. I'm not a criminal, have never murdered anyone (yet) but if I was asked by a copper to give my fingerprints for no apparent reason, I'd refuse.
Old 18 August 2006, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover
So the Government can get all your information on record. How dare we as citizens have a right to Freedom ?

They can't make us Adults routinely give our fingerprints / DNA, but do it to our kids at school where the Parents have no idea, and you get all the information you need.

I have nothing to hide. I'm not a criminal, have never murdered anyone (yet) but if I was asked by a copper to give my fingerprints for no apparent reason, I'd refuse.
It is those with a nice clean record that have the most to fear and the most to lose. I work in IT and I know how easily systems can be compromised, even if the system is incredibly secure, you still have a weak point where people interact with the system. The identities of people that are good law abiding citizens are the ones that will sell at a premium. Identity theft is happening now, we want to be storing less personal information on computers not more.
Old 18 August 2006, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
It is those with a nice clean record that have the most to fear and the most to lose. I work in IT and I know how easily systems can be compromised, even if the system is incredibly secure, you still have a weak point where people interact with the system. The identities of people that are good law abiding citizens are the ones that will sell at a premium. Identity theft is happening now, we want to be storing less personal information on computers not more.
Agreed
Old 18 August 2006, 03:30 PM
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I have a vague recolection of having my fingerprints took at infant school (along with all the other kids) That was over 20 years ago, so its not a new thing.
Old 18 August 2006, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by amazinggrace
I have a vague recolection of having my fingerprints took at infant school (along with all the other kids) That was over 20 years ago, so its not a new thing.
Taken and recorded or just done by a visiting copper as a demonstration - damn, the bas*ards, that's what they were doing
Old 18 August 2006, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
Taken and recorded or just done by a visiting copper as a demonstration - damn, the bas*ards, that's what they were doing
Well they did the whole school, every fat little finger, so I think they must have been recorded.

Being the angel I am I have never been in trouble with plod so I have never had reason to find out. (I have helped with enquirys before )
Old 18 August 2006, 05:54 PM
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About time someone clamped down on the little *******....
Old 18 August 2006, 06:23 PM
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Meh, I think cutting off their fingers would be more appropriate for some.
Old 05 September 2006, 02:49 PM
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Welcome to the new age children.........

Old 05 September 2006, 02:57 PM
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Get all the information you need now, ie fingerprints, DNA. Then in years to come introduce the ID cards. They already have lots of information, so all they have to do is invoice you for the card.

Reduces the cost of getting everyones fingerprints, DNA later.
Old 05 September 2006, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Mick

Just phoned the school - apparently there will be a letter home about it - it's just a little scan of the thumb - doesn't hurt

Refuse to allow your son to have his fingerprints taken. See what they say. He's not a criminal so they have no rights to take his fingerprints, and they are not the Police. Refuse.

Labours back door attempts to get everyones information.
Old 05 September 2006, 03:06 PM
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Data Protection Act anyone?.............
Old 05 September 2006, 03:11 PM
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Handy if the little ****s vandalise your car though
Old 05 September 2006, 11:25 PM
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Interesting post on this at NO2ID!!!

...but sadly the government will keep on trying, spending our money until they eventually get a working "Library System"

Then they will scale it up for adults, but this time it might cost a little more (and take a little longer)

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Old 06 September 2006, 07:17 AM
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There are distant plans for a complete UK DNA database, mind you if you have nothing to hide .....................
Old 07 September 2006, 11:41 AM
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They don't take any action for vandalism any more, its only the electorate who have to suffer after all.

I think this is a travesty of our future freedoms. They have no right to take our biometric details in such an underhand way. OllyK is right, it is a gross danger to those of us who have nothing to hide. That is the most stupid excuse to make for their transgressions. As DCI says, "1984" is on the horizon.

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