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Old 24 February 2006, 09:57 PM
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Red face Is it just me or has the world gone mad

Reading the paper tonight about how gay men are not allowed to give blood due to data showing they are a high risk.
What cracked me up though was the person at the Universities that were complaining about it.
They were the LGBT Officers
Thats right - each Uni has a Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender Officer

Wonder if there is a straight officer
Old 24 February 2006, 10:00 PM
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Surely all blood is tested for everything before it's classed as "ready for use"



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Old 24 February 2006, 10:05 PM
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blood is tested but if you **** blokes up the **** you are more likely to have picked up some dodgy virus, same goes for doing drugs with needles
Old 24 February 2006, 10:22 PM
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and it would be picked up in the tests???? and the blood thrown away or made use of in another way!

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Old 24 February 2006, 10:23 PM
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and what an expensive stupid waste of time that would be......
Old 24 February 2006, 10:25 PM
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So they are exluding people that MIGHT have some dodgy blood.

Aren't they crying out for donors??


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Old 24 February 2006, 10:34 PM
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When did you last give blood ?

for more info click here http://www.blood.co.uk/pages/stocklevel.html
Old 24 February 2006, 10:43 PM
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Following the last faux pas regarding Blood , where heamophilliacs, were given hiv contaminated blood, with obvious consequences, all blood is screened,

if blood is found to be contaminated, it is destroyed.

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all pregnancys now have hiv screening as a mater of course.
Old 24 February 2006, 10:44 PM
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I wonder if they ask heterosexual men if they **** their missus up the **** before they accept blood????? Or heterosexual women if they like it up the **** from their man?????

I can't give blood in the USA as I may have Mad Cow Diesease, apparently!
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You got me there as I never have.
Saw an advert not so long ago, must have been Christmas judging by the stats.

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Old 24 February 2006, 10:45 PM
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There is a delay (of several weeks IIRC) between infection with HIV and the virus load being high enough for tests to pick it up. During that time the blood can pass on HIV.


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Old 24 February 2006, 10:50 PM
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Bummers.

Pain in the ****
Old 24 February 2006, 10:51 PM
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Its also about the health of the nurses and doctors taking the donations. Remember we'e talking about needles and blood, and avoidance of risk has to be a priority. And again why accept donations from a group of the population where there is an increased chance that the donation will eventually be rejected. There are many groups excluded from donating, not just gay men, intravenous drug users, people who have had sex with prostitutes, people who have had sex with someone from African countries where HIV infections are high, those who have received blood in the past, been tattoed recently, etc etc. The blood donor service is set up to receive and process donations, not to be a handy infection testing service.
Old 24 February 2006, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
So they are exluding people that MIGHT have some dodgy blood.

Aren't they crying out for donors??


Andy
Hardly any use giving dodgy blood though isnt it.

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Old 24 February 2006, 10:53 PM
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Jeez - what have I started. I was only complaining about the LGBT officers
Old 24 February 2006, 11:01 PM
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Old 24 February 2006, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Alas
Jeez - what have I started. I was only complaining about the LGBT officers
Ah, you were simply trying to say that there shouldn't be a counsellor specifically employed to help the poofs and the dykes and those ******* who can't make up their mind?

I expect there is also a counsellor who will work with "normal" people!

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Old 24 February 2006, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000TLondon
Ah, you were simply trying to say that there shouldn't be a counsellor specifically employed to help the puffs and the dykes and those ******* who can't make up their mind?

I expect there is also a counsellor who will work with "normal" people!
No - why not one counsellor for all.
Old 24 February 2006, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Alas
No - why not one counsellor for all.
Fair point mate

I'm sure the government and education bodies feel that it's better to label the groups and provide help to those most in need of it
Old 25 February 2006, 12:34 AM
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It's an issue for someone coming to terms with being gay therefore there is help on hand for them.

So you want one for heterosexual people coming to terms with their hetrosexuality as well do you? Fair enough but I don't think they're gonna get many people coming to them worried about how to deal with their straightness.
Old 25 February 2006, 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 2000TLondon
I wonder if they ask heterosexual men if they **** their missus up the **** before they accept blood????? Or heterosexual women if they like it up the **** from their man?????

how does a typical husband and wife couple have a greater exposure to HIV than a typical gay man?????
Old 25 February 2006, 12:47 AM
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Are you saying that a person from a typical gay couple is more externally promiscuous than a person from a typical heterosexual couple?
Old 25 February 2006, 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Tiggs
how does a typical husband and wife couple have a greater exposure to HIV than a typical gay man?????
Ah the blissful, perfect modern world where people have only one sexual partner their entire lives......
Old 25 February 2006, 08:12 AM
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Perhaps they are protecting the recipients from infectious diseases that aren't known about yet? How would you feel if you found out further down the line that you had been infected with gayness from a blood transfusion?
Old 25 February 2006, 11:48 AM
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Anything wrong with being faithfull to your partner 2000TLondon?

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