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Old 26 January 2006, 08:49 AM
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Looks like a crane fly though much smaller. It's in the NE Scotland in farming country. It seems to gather in small clouds, a bit like midge's and not like crane flies though. Seems to be present all year round as well.
Like to identify what it is so I can see if there's a way to combat them

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Old 26 January 2006, 10:04 AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosquito
Old 26 January 2006, 10:05 AM
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daddy long legs?
Old 26 January 2006, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevin Groat

Like to identify what it is so I can see if there's a way to combat them

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I think they're Mozzies. We get them buzzing over our pond.

Rich - Crane Fly = Daddy Long Legs.
Old 26 January 2006, 11:02 AM
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its called a damsel fly guys, a type of aphid, I believe
Aphids feed on the small black beetles that live in plants, and they are present all round the UK, but thier habits only bring them into touch with humans relatively rarely.
Old 26 January 2006, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by danwrx1980
its called a damsel fly guys, a type of aphid, I believe
Aphids feed on the small black beetles that live in plants, and they are present all round the UK, but thier habits only bring them into touch with humans relatively rarely.
Did you just make all that **** up?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damsel_fly
Old 26 January 2006, 11:25 AM
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Move......we have moved......last location was a midge paradise, now we've got these things. At least they don't bite like midge's. Not convinced from the piccies I've found they're either Damsels or any of the other Aphids I've found.

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Old 26 January 2006, 11:51 AM
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It definitely looks like a cranefly to me. If it was a mosquito it would have a proboscis (pointy bit coming out of its head that females use to suck blood!).

Incidentally, the larvae of craneflies are called 'leatherjackets' and are those horrible looking things you sometimes find when digging soil.

It's not a damselfly or an aphid (which, as Olly says, are different species).

Finally, a cranefly is not the same as a daddy long-legs; they are spiders and definitely don't have wings!
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doesn't matter what it was as i assume you hit it with a rolled-up newspaper?
Old 26 January 2006, 11:58 AM
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get the fly spray handy, i hate all types of insects
Old 26 January 2006, 11:58 AM
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Cranefly do have wings

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Cranefly.1web.jpg

Not sure it's one of those though.
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Originally Posted by Daryl
It definitely looks like a cranefly to me. If it was a mosquito it would have a proboscis (pointy bit coming out of its head that females use to suck blood!).

Incidentally, the larvae of craneflies are called 'leatherjackets' and are those horrible looking things you sometimes find when digging soil.

It's not a damselfly or an aphid (which, as Olly says, are different species).

Finally, a cranefly is not the same as a daddy long-legs; they are spiders and definitely don't have wings!
I'm going to wiki you as well I'm afraid. Daddy longlegs is a generic term that covers both crane fly and harvestman / cellar spiders! I do agree that a Crane Fly is looking the most likely however, it would be easier to say if the wings weren't covering the body.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daddy_longlegs
Old 26 January 2006, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
Daddy longlegs is a generic term that covers both crane fly and harvestman / cellar spiders!
Ahh, fair enough, although my understanding was that pholcus phalangioides was the first to be given the name and this is the most widespread and accepted use; the others came after and were used out of ignorance, but have now gained common acceptance
Old 26 January 2006, 12:47 PM
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Having dissected the occassional Daddy Long Legs in my earlier years I don't believe these are DDL's. These are MUCH smaller and gather in small clouds of 100's (I reckon). You'd struggle to pull off one of these legs as it's that much smaller. I'm tempted to try one of the machines that's been developed to clear midges but would like to know what I'm dealing with before exterminating them
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Originally Posted by Daryl
Ahh, fair enough, although my understanding was that pholcus phalangioides was the first to be given the name and this is the most widespread and accepted use; the others came after and were used out of ignorance, but have now gained common acceptance
Indeed - a bit like "Hoover" is used for vacuum cleaners.
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Looks like a stonefly to me - excellent for trout fishing
Old 26 January 2006, 03:26 PM
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I live in the same area and we had a bit of a plague of those a couple of months ago. About 20 in the house. They're definitely not mosquito's though, its far too bloody cold for them up here
Old 26 January 2006, 03:36 PM
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Hmmm, I can see I'm going to have to catch a few of these ******* and do some proper analysis......Anyone got a microscope I can borrow?

Agree with the cold thing, the're not mossie's, but these damned things are still around even at temps of 3 or 4 deg's C.
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Managed to find this, but without any pictures

* WINDOW FLY

The adult fly is about 3-4mm in length reminiscent of a small crane fly, with noticeable long spindly legs. The wings with a fairly complex venation may sometimes be seen to have cloudy grey-brown patterns. It is one of the more common species to enter houses and other buildings.
Description sounds like the begger
Old 26 January 2006, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by _RIP_
Managed to find this, but without any pictures


Description sounds like the begger
Sounds good, I'll do some further research tonight and see if I can find anything as well. Might trap a few of the beggars and get some serious close up piccies.

Ta
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