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Old 22 January 2006, 10:29 PM
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Default The papers are starting to really lay into Blair...

Sunday Times has just run this story - The wheels falling off...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...004099,00.html

All the warnings that various "right wing" posters have been talking about are coming to fruitition. It gives no comfort to say "We told you so"
Old 22 January 2006, 10:45 PM
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He will still go down in history as one of the greatest leaders this country has seen.

Like it or not - thats the fact.

It's far from over .........................

Who are you proposing we elect as leader? Go on, answer that ... and then answer whether they are a better bet than Blair??

You will find yourself staring at the stark reality that this is about as good as it gets!!

You make your own way in this world - too many people like to blame someone else for their failings ..............

Pete
Old 22 January 2006, 10:47 PM
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Ruth Kelly?!
She seems to be able to make decissions that please everyone
Old 22 January 2006, 10:50 PM
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You dont need to be "right wing" to understand the economy has been fuelled by rising house prices and public spending and its unsustainable long term. Bliar is bad enough but the concept of the idiot Brown in charge scares me witless.
Old 22 January 2006, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
He will still go down in history as one of the greatest leaders this country has seen.

Like it or not - thats the fact.

It's far from over .........................

Who are you proposing we elect as leader? Go on, answer that ... and then answer whether they are a better bet than Blair??

You will find yourself staring at the stark reality that this is about as good as it gets!!

You make your own way in this world - too many people like to blame someone else for their failings ..............

Pete
At the moment pete even i,m a better bet than blair,

the only reason its as good as it gets is due to his desire to be on the world stage and for his pc were all your friends empathy stance, and the fact its his mrs who werars the trousers and not him!

what we have is a classic little boy lost, who had no role model and so set out to try and better the previous "great leaders"

unfortunatly even he couldnt do that, everything he touches turns to red tape or pc madness,

still i suppose being remembered as the man who removed the great from great britian, will have a place on the wall of fame, along with the other dictators the world has known.

Mart
Old 22 January 2006, 10:54 PM
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The final comment sums it up,

"they have squandered the post Thatcher legacy"

now we,ll have to go in and mop up the crap they leave behind


Mart
Old 22 January 2006, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by mart360
The final comment sums it up,

"they have squandered the post Thatcher legacy"

now we,ll have to go in and mop up the crap they leave behind


Mart
Ha Ha yeah right ............ Mart and his Eton Leader

Pete
Old 23 January 2006, 12:25 PM
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Remind me, Pete. Which school did your "greatest leader of all time" go to? Just in case you can't remember, here's a clue.
Old 23 January 2006, 12:27 PM
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Theyre all lying pr!cks. Doesnt matter who is in charge, they'll all waste money and want more from us mortals who work hard for what we get....
Old 23 January 2006, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mart360
The final comment sums it up,

"they have squandered the post Thatcher legacy"

now we,ll have to go in and mop up the crap they leave behind


Mart
Thatcher, A REAL man!!!

Blair, a great leader? Pah!! A great frontman in the right place at the right time, maybe.

Ns04
Old 23 January 2006, 12:34 PM
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It is becoming clear to all that New Labour as a party of Government are both intellectually and morally bankrupt. It is unfortunate that the country will have to endure another three years of their meddling before they can be removed from power.
Old 23 January 2006, 12:34 PM
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As mentioned above, the day Brown gets to be PM, we'll all be wishing for Blair to come back.

Pete, just because Blair is the best of a bad bunch doesn't make him a great leader. It's like claiming skin cancer is fun because it's the least deadly cancer.
Old 23 January 2006, 01:03 PM
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Lifted from that article:

“This gradual change in labour market laws that we’ve seen is going to lead to big inflexibilities in the economy,” said Richard Jeffrey, head of research at the City firm Bridgewell Securities. “It is inhibiting our ability to compete.”

The consequences of the government’s extravagance on spending, and the accompanying increase in the tax burden, are coming home to roost. A decade ago, the tax burden in Britain was decisively lower than in Germany. Measured as a share of gross domestic product, it was — at 38% — close to the average of the generally more successful English-speaking “Anglo-Saxon” economies, and within sight of low-tax America.

But this year, says the Paris-based Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), Britain’s tax burden will be 42.4%, higher than Germany’s 42.1% and well above America, which has come down to 32.7%.
Holger Schmieding of Bank of America, who highlighted the figures in a report last week, said Britain was becoming more like the slow-growing economies of Europe. “For 2006, the OECD expects the German government spending share to fall within striking distance of the UK share. For 2007, the OECD even sees German government expenditure, 45% of GDP, below that of the UK’s 45.7%,” he said.



Sir Digby Jones, the CBI director-general, citing a £50 billion increase in the business tax burden, has repeatedly warned Blair and Brown of the dangers of making Britain uncompetitive.

But such warnings have fallen on deaf ears, with damaging consequences. “There is a lot more talk from members that companies will go elsewhere,” said a CBI source. “More and more people are making plans to do that.”

That’s not the only problem. There was near-meltdown in Britain’s market for gilts — government bonds — last week. Company pension schemes, hit hard by the £5 billion annual tax raid that Brown instituted shortly after Labour took office in 1997, are now being forced by the pensions regulator to buy “safe” investments. These include index-linked bonds, protected against inflation. But last week the return on these bonds, after inflation, slumped below 0.4% — a fraction of what pension schemes need to meet their liabilities.

The best measure of a country’s long-term prosperity is the growth in productivity — output per worker, or output per hour. In his first budget more than eight years ago Brown set out a “productivity agenda”, aimed at closing the gap between Britain and competitor countries. But British workers still produce substantially less every hour than their French, German and American counterparts.

Productivity growth has slowed sharply since 2001, when Blair and Brown turned on the spending taps. Public sector productivity has been falling for the past four years, dragging down the overall figures. The latest figures show output per worker in Britain up by a paltry 0.4% on a year earlier. Measured on a per-hour basis, there was no increase at all.
Old 24 January 2006, 12:53 PM
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Warrenm,

Please dont call everyone who is fed up with NL and the prat in charge "Right Wing". Nothing could be further from the truth. We just don't like to see our country going down the tubes because of their self seeking performance and gross ineptitude at running anything to do with government. The rather queer bunch of cronies at the top could be regarded as being as right wing as you can get anyway.

The posts by Martin Aimless and NotRev are as close to the real point as any, these inept people are in it for their own good and have no regard for the electorate or this country.

No good expecting PSL to reply when he has been caught out. He has not got the bottle or the background knowledge to be able to do that anyway. Unless he can find something to cut and paste which usually is of no consequence anyway, he will just run away and hide as usual.

Les
Old 24 January 2006, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mart360
The final comment sums it up,

Mart
There's another three pages to read after that bit m8.

This sums things up for me. One rule for bliar and another for the rest of us cash cow mugs.

Last November Mike Collins, a former member of the Labour party, was denied the same sort of heart operation that Blair received on the NHS a year before.


The 55-year-old accountancy lecturer from Abingdon, Oxfordshire, was told he was no longer eligible for the treatment. It was cancelled because of a financial crisis at his local hospital. Like dozens of others with irregular heartbeats who were being treated by the Oxford Radcliffe Hospitals NHS Trust, he was told the eligibility criteria for the operation had been changed. That policy was reversed by the hospital only last week.
Collins, who had planned to take out a £10,000 loan to pay for the treatment privately, felt badly let down. “My contract with the NHS, where I pay for it in years of taxes so that it is there for me when I need it, had been broken,” he said.
Old 24 January 2006, 11:00 PM
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Leslie, just use that label as a form of mockery to the bashers of people who hold anti NL views. Hence the quotes.

The only trouble I have now is that David Cameron won instead of David Davis. Popular yes, would implement radical reforms that are desparately needed like Margaret Thatcher did? Hmmmmm. We'll see
Old 25 January 2006, 12:20 PM
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Fair enough warrenm2. Yes as far as I am concerned the jury is still out on Cameron.

Les
Old 25 January 2006, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Fair enough warrenm2. Yes as far as I am concerned the jury is still out on Cameron.

Les
He's a right wing Peter Mandleson,slime factor 9.5.
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Originally Posted by davegtt
Theyre all lying pr!cks. Doesnt matter who is in charge, they'll all waste money and want more from us mortals who work hard for what we get....
That just about sums it up.

And it was one of the shortest pieces to read.
Old 25 January 2006, 05:59 PM
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...975056,00.html

Tough on crime? The MSM is really starting to turn now, which is good
Old 26 January 2006, 11:18 AM
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I have not seen a senior politician I felt I could actually trust for a very long time now.

Les

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