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29 November 2005, 01:09 PM
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Hypocritical Government
No surprise there, but just look at these 2 stories today. 1st off, Alastair Darling has started the push towards tracking motorists by telling us it's part of a wider transport policy to improve things:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4480292.stm
But then the Government stops Liverpool (and Leeds) from implementing a better public transport system:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...de/4481146.stm
Makes you wonder exactly what satellite tracking will really be used for, because the government don't seem exactly commited to improving public transport, do they?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4480292.stm
But then the Government stops Liverpool (and Leeds) from implementing a better public transport system:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...de/4481146.stm
Makes you wonder exactly what satellite tracking will really be used for, because the government don't seem exactly commited to improving public transport, do they?
29 November 2005, 01:12 PM
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It is even more interesting to note that they really expect their road charging scheme to be such a success that the Time reports:
"Tyne & Wear is considering using profits from its proposed charging scheme to compensate businesses for loss of trade."
Well, that is great then. No better way to get the economy back to the stone age than by implementing a wide range of control systems that will fill the far left with joy and ruin business and transport.
"Tyne & Wear is considering using profits from its proposed charging scheme to compensate businesses for loss of trade."
Well, that is great then. No better way to get the economy back to the stone age than by implementing a wide range of control systems that will fill the far left with joy and ruin business and transport.
29 November 2005, 01:18 PM
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Just typical Labour, rather than solve any root cause they just try fire fighting measures.
If we had a half decent public transport system, that would in itself cut congestion, and people would be more willing to use it rather than drive everywhere. I know exactly what will happen in Greater Manchester - people will just avoid the CG zones by skirting around them using the small outlying villages as rat runs.
The only thing they can do to cut congestion in real terms is to price people off the road by charging £5/litre for fuel. But...they MUST provide decent alternatives rather than blowing our money on crap like they are proposing.
If we had a half decent public transport system, that would in itself cut congestion, and people would be more willing to use it rather than drive everywhere. I know exactly what will happen in Greater Manchester - people will just avoid the CG zones by skirting around them using the small outlying villages as rat runs.
The only thing they can do to cut congestion in real terms is to price people off the road by charging £5/litre for fuel. But...they MUST provide decent alternatives rather than blowing our money on crap like they are proposing.
29 November 2005, 01:27 PM
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Mr Darling said a national charging scheme would replace either fuel duty or vehicle excise duty but could result in an increase in the overall sum paid by motorists.
29 November 2005, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Weaver
The only thing they can do to cut congestion in real terms is to price people off the road by charging £5/litre for fuel. But...they MUST provide decent alternatives rather than blowing our money on crap like they are proposing.
1) Remove the congestion creating mechanisms that have been introduced such as the removal of pull-ins for bus stops, the introduction of 24 hour bus lanes, the removal of second lanes on dual carriage ways by hatching them all out, the continual and unesscessary reduction of speed limits on safe roads.
2) Incentivise businesses to encourage home work and staggered starting hours. Rather than a rush hour, we spread the load.
3) Improve public transport and provide more / better park and ride style facilities, particularly to get people from the outskirts in to town centres.
29 November 2005, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
Actually there are a good few alternatives
1) Remove the congestion creating mechanisms that have been introduced such as the removal of pull-ins for bus stops, the introduction of 24 hour bus lanes, the removal of second lanes on dual carriage ways by hatching them all out, the continual and unesscessary reduction of speed limits on safe roads.
2) Incentivise businesses to encourage home work and staggered starting hours. Rather than a rush hour, we spread the load.
3) Improve public transport and provide more / better park and ride style facilities, particularly to get people from the outskirts in to town centres.
1) Remove the congestion creating mechanisms that have been introduced such as the removal of pull-ins for bus stops, the introduction of 24 hour bus lanes, the removal of second lanes on dual carriage ways by hatching them all out, the continual and unesscessary reduction of speed limits on safe roads.
2) Incentivise businesses to encourage home work and staggered starting hours. Rather than a rush hour, we spread the load.
3) Improve public transport and provide more / better park and ride style facilities, particularly to get people from the outskirts in to town centres.
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29 November 2005, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
Actually there are a good few alternatives
1) Remove the congestion creating mechanisms that have been introduced such as the removal of pull-ins for bus stops, the introduction of 24 hour bus lanes, the removal of second lanes on dual carriage ways by hatching them all out, the continual and unesscessary reduction of speed limits on safe roads.
2) Incentivise businesses to encourage home work and staggered starting hours. Rather than a rush hour, we spread the load.
3) Improve public transport and provide more / better park and ride style facilities, particularly to get people from the outskirts in to town centres.
1) Remove the congestion creating mechanisms that have been introduced such as the removal of pull-ins for bus stops, the introduction of 24 hour bus lanes, the removal of second lanes on dual carriage ways by hatching them all out, the continual and unesscessary reduction of speed limits on safe roads.
2) Incentivise businesses to encourage home work and staggered starting hours. Rather than a rush hour, we spread the load.
3) Improve public transport and provide more / better park and ride style facilities, particularly to get people from the outskirts in to town centres.
Plus this Government is determined to track its population. They want to know where you are, what you are doing and when ..... their plan is working!
29 November 2005, 05:02 PM
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Can I use that list to send to my MP? He is looking into the issues I raised with him and I want to know what the Conservative view on them is. However, by sending your list, I can come up with his next transport policy for Northampton!
Cool.
Can I use that list to send to my MP? He is looking into the issues I raised with him and I want to know what the Conservative view on them is. However, by sending your list, I can come up with his next transport policy for Northampton!
Cool.
29 November 2005, 05:13 PM
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local authorities have changed road patterns and traffic light sequences to specifically increase congestion
29 November 2005, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Weaver
Just typical Labour, rather than solve any root cause they just try fire fighting measures.
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29 November 2005, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
They are certainly doing that around my area.
They've just done it on the A6 through Stockport
Over a periond of two weeks they have been altering the traffic light sequences, and several teams of clipboard toting numpties have been recording the results, on my particlar 15 mile journey the time taken varied over as much as 30 minutes. The study has obviously finished because it now consistently takes me over half an hour longer to get to and from work than it did a month agoI'm betting sometime soon there will be a report about traffic congestion worsening too
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