This beggars belief...
03 October 2005, 07:33 PM
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This beggars belief...
http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...446713,00.html
How the hell did she get off with no custodial sentence?
She tried to hang a 5 year old boy in a public park FFS and should be inside for attempted murder no matter what her age She should be in Broadmoor doing **** like that.
This countries legal system simply amazes me with stuff like this.
How the hell did she get off with no custodial sentence?
She tried to hang a 5 year old boy in a public park FFS and should be inside for attempted murder no matter what her age She should be in Broadmoor doing **** like that.This countries legal system simply amazes me with stuff like this.
03 October 2005, 07:52 PM
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Don't get me started..
Serial rapist jailed for life walks the streets a free man after 16 years with state paid anonymity, housing & gawd knows how much extra help to get him back into society, trained, educated and nicely set thank you very much (ignoring the fact that he's a multi-millionaire).
Victim(s), relatively poor, largely ignored and with sod all extra state help left to suffer the torment and stress of him turning up in their neighbourhood for the rest of their lives..
Fair & just? Just an indication of how crap NL's Britain is.. teetering on the edge of some Big Brother, PC, namby pamby, half arsed, controlled populace cess pit with no silver cloud or 60w at the end of any tunnel.
Makes you proud doesn't it?
Serial rapist jailed for life walks the streets a free man after 16 years with state paid anonymity, housing & gawd knows how much extra help to get him back into society, trained, educated and nicely set thank you very much (ignoring the fact that he's a multi-millionaire).
Victim(s), relatively poor, largely ignored and with sod all extra state help left to suffer the torment and stress of him turning up in their neighbourhood for the rest of their lives..
Fair & just? Just an indication of how crap NL's Britain is.. teetering on the edge of some Big Brother, PC, namby pamby, half arsed, controlled populace cess pit with no silver cloud or 60w at the end of any tunnel.
Makes you proud doesn't it?
03 October 2005, 08:24 PM
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She was 12 after all!! Rules are different at that age (c Jamie Bulger)
It may be that she's a borderline basket-case anyway & jail will not do any good. Or it was deemed that jail would be counter-productive.
Bet your bottom dollar that she is going to be seeing shrinks for years to come...
It may be that she's a borderline basket-case anyway & jail will not do any good. Or it was deemed that jail would be counter-productive.
Bet your bottom dollar that she is going to be seeing shrinks for years to come...
03 October 2005, 08:27 PM
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Yep proud to be looked at by the rest of the World as having a legal system thats a laughing stock. A legal system that lets off the criminal and makes the victim feel like a piece of dirt. A legal system that protects a convicted serial rapist like you say, but puts away a pensioner for not paying their council tax.
That 13 year old, how long before she goes onto do the same again because she is not locked up? And will the legal system take responsibility for it? Like hell they will!
What a fine upstanding system we have
That 13 year old, how long before she goes onto do the same again because she is not locked up? And will the legal system take responsibility for it? Like hell they will!
What a fine upstanding system we have
03 October 2005, 08:30 PM
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Puff the fact is she shouldn't be free to walk the streets having nearly murdered a little boy. At 12 years old you know what the results of your actions will be. The murderers of Jamie Bulger should have never been freed for what they did and I hope someone catches up with them one day and gets them, it will be no less than what they deserve for what they did.
03 October 2005, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by **************
Puff the fact is she shouldn't be free to walk the streets having nearly murdered a little boy. At 12 years old you know what the results of your actions will be. The murderers of Jamie Bulger should have never been freed for what they did and I hope someone catches up with them one day and gets them, it will be no less than what they deserve for what they did.
Ten- to 13- year-olds
The 1998 Crime and Disorder Act abolished the presumption that children were incapable of knowing the difference between right and wrong and so this age group is now treated in the same way as other juveniles (14-17 year olds).
(taken from here
So, from a criminal viewpoint she cannot claim she didn't know what she was doing, unless there was a plead of diminished responsibility or insanity, and I don't think there was, thus I feel she should not be walking around free as the birds. She should either be in a mental institue or in Jail.
What on earth will happen if she does this again? Slap on the wrists and another bout of freedom? Or maybe they'll do what they should have done in the first place and lock her up (nut house or jail house)
She sounds like Imelda Davis from Grange Hill, there was a right bampot and make no mistake
(just trying to lighten things up a little)
04 October 2005, 03:21 PM
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she was charged with ABH and perverting course of justice - NOT attempted murder. Blame CPS for not bringing the appropriate charge, ABH is compartively minor.......
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04 October 2005, 03:36 PM
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And on another thread we can read about how people are being put into jail for peacefully handing out leaflets......
Now, if she'd had a CND leaflet found about her person when she was arrested they'd have thrown the book at her!
Now, if she'd had a CND leaflet found about her person when she was arrested they'd have thrown the book at her!
05 October 2005, 12:35 PM
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05 October 2005, 12:39 PM
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So what the judge has said is...
you can attempt to kill someone, but aslong as you dont thats ok..
it was the usual ,,,, tramuatised by earlier events and mental age of xx and the cardy brigade were pattting each other on the back...
and the poor boy she nearly killed... what of him...
once again the victims come of worse....
she needs locking up period
M
you can attempt to kill someone, but aslong as you dont thats ok..
it was the usual ,,,, tramuatised by earlier events and mental age of xx and the cardy brigade were pattting each other on the back...
and the poor boy she nearly killed... what of him...
once again the victims come of worse....
she needs locking up period
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05 October 2005, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Markus
Ten- to 13- year-olds
The 1998 Crime and Disorder Act abolished the presumption that children were incapable of knowing the difference between right and wrong and so this age group is now treated in the same way as other juveniles (14-17 year olds).
(taken from here
The 1998 Crime and Disorder Act abolished the presumption that children were incapable of knowing the difference between right and wrong and so this age group is now treated in the same way as other juveniles (14-17 year olds).
(taken from here
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05 October 2005, 10:35 PM
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Jamie Bulger would have been the same age as my son, had he lived. I would not dare say what I think should happen to his killers and as for this little bitch who tried to hang that child, again, I dare not. But I will say this, British Justice, the law is an ***.
06 October 2005, 11:44 AM
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Alan C,
I don't think they are so much teetering as you said in your first post as accelerating now that they have got power and time on their side!
I don't believe it is the legal system that is so much as fault in that the laws and sentencing powers are there to be used but the people who administer the law are the ones who are at fault for not using them as they should be.
Les
I don't think they are so much teetering as you said in your first post as accelerating now that they have got power and time on their side!
I don't believe it is the legal system that is so much as fault in that the laws and sentencing powers are there to be used but the people who administer the law are the ones who are at fault for not using them as they should be.
Les
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