The Greatest Leader of All Time??
27 September 2005, 08:29 PM
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The Greatest Leader of All Time??
Certainly in the UK .....
Just watched Mr Blair speak, what a leader, what a man, what a Polititian!!
99% of those on here are not worthy enough to wipe his shoes!! Me, on the other hand .....
Top notch Tony - and when Brown gets in it's fully curtains for the Tory Clowns!! Who have they got to give Labour any worry whatsoever!!
Oh, YES!!!!! 15 more years of Labour??!!
Excellent!!
Life is GOOOOOOOOOOD!!
Pete
Just watched Mr Blair speak, what a leader, what a man, what a Polititian!!
99% of those on here are not worthy enough to wipe his shoes!! Me, on the other hand .....
Top notch Tony - and when Brown gets in it's fully curtains for the Tory Clowns!! Who have they got to give Labour any worry whatsoever!!
Oh, YES!!!!! 15 more years of Labour??!!
Excellent!!
Life is GOOOOOOOOOOD!!
Pete
27 September 2005, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Certainly in the UK .....
Just watched Mr Blair speak, what a leader, what a man, what a Polititian!!
99% of those on here are not worthy enough to wipe his shoes!! Me, on the other hand ..... I regularly suck his ****
Excellent!!
Life is GOOOOOOOOOOD!!
Pete
Just watched Mr Blair speak, what a leader, what a man, what a Polititian!!
99% of those on here are not worthy enough to wipe his shoes!! Me, on the other hand ..... I regularly suck his ****
Excellent!!
Life is GOOOOOOOOOOD!!
Pete
27 September 2005, 08:42 PM
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funnily enough and moreover after hearing Browns speech i suspect opinions on New Labia will be more clear-cut - i suspect people will move away
27 September 2005, 08:48 PM
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Hold on a minute
It was David Blunkett, a former (and future) member of Bliars cabinet who restricted our right to choose our children's school, who opened the floodgates for illegal immigrants to bleed our welfare system dry, who so hamstrung our Police Force with red tape that they could no longer do their jobs properly!
It was Cherie Booth, wife of our glorious leader, and her cronies who paved the way for the compensation culture, who stood up for the right of the criminal to persecute the law abiding citizen without fear of reproach!
It was Tony Blair himself who took us into an illegal invasion of a sovereign territory, on the back of lies and deceit, and keeps us there, with an army so depleted by swingeing cutbacks that they have to buy their own protective equipment!
Yes Bliar may be the greatest leader of all time, but only if the only other candidates on the shortlist are Mao Tse Tung, Robert Mugabe & Josef Stalin:******:
It was David Blunkett, a former (and future) member of Bliars cabinet who restricted our right to choose our children's school, who opened the floodgates for illegal immigrants to bleed our welfare system dry, who so hamstrung our Police Force with red tape that they could no longer do their jobs properly!
It was Cherie Booth, wife of our glorious leader, and her cronies who paved the way for the compensation culture, who stood up for the right of the criminal to persecute the law abiding citizen without fear of reproach!
It was Tony Blair himself who took us into an illegal invasion of a sovereign territory, on the back of lies and deceit, and keeps us there, with an army so depleted by swingeing cutbacks that they have to buy their own protective equipment!
Yes Bliar may be the greatest leader of all time, but only if the only other candidates on the shortlist are Mao Tse Tung, Robert Mugabe & Josef Stalin:******:
27 September 2005, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by CrisPDuk
Yes Bliar may be the greatest leader of all time
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27 September 2005, 08:55 PM
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oh blair is certainly many things........say no more
Originally Posted by pslewis
Certainly in the UK .....
Just watched Mr Blair speak, what a leader, what a man, what a Polititian!!
99% of those on here are not worthy enough to wipe his shoes!! Me, on the other hand .....
Top notch Tony - and when Brown gets in it's fully curtains for the Tory Clowns!! Who have they got to give Labour any worry whatsoever!!
Oh, YES!!!!! 15 more years of Labour??!!
Excellent!!
Life is GOOOOOOOOOOD!!
Pete
Just watched Mr Blair speak, what a leader, what a man, what a Polititian!!
99% of those on here are not worthy enough to wipe his shoes!! Me, on the other hand .....
Top notch Tony - and when Brown gets in it's fully curtains for the Tory Clowns!! Who have they got to give Labour any worry whatsoever!!
Oh, YES!!!!! 15 more years of Labour??!!
Excellent!!
Life is GOOOOOOOOOOD!!
Pete
27 September 2005, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I knew you would come round to the logical way of thinking!!
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**** me Pete, that's the greatest out of context quotation I have ever witnesed, have ever considered a job with the S*n?
As a bonus, you can even be closer to the man Tony Bliar calls 'Sir'
27 September 2005, 08:58 PM
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Sorry Pete ......
Its all going to come crashing down on Browns head.....just as he takes over the reigns ( likely before) the british public will AT LAST wake up and realise what a merry dance weve been led and theyll be out.
Its all going to come crashing down on Browns head.....just as he takes over the reigns ( likely before) the british public will AT LAST wake up and realise what a merry dance weve been led and theyll be out.
27 September 2005, 09:05 PM
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I thought Maggie Thatcher was the best leader of all time. She had half of the world leaders eating out of her hand, and the ones that did not were well scared of her 
27 September 2005, 09:09 PM
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Watch billys speeches closely.........
when he opens his mouth, you can see a small figure in the back of his throat waving.....
closer inspection shows it to be pissy, he,s so far up tonys ar*e they cant surgiacally remove him...
pete is this the best drivel you can do..
one trick pony really... if no bites on the other crap, just thow a tonys wondeful thread....
cant wait for the day the smile is wiped of tonys and your face..
M
when he opens his mouth, you can see a small figure in the back of his throat waving.....
closer inspection shows it to be pissy, he,s so far up tonys ar*e they cant surgiacally remove him...
pete is this the best drivel you can do..
one trick pony really... if no bites on the other crap, just thow a tonys wondeful thread....
cant wait for the day the smile is wiped of tonys and your face..
M
27 September 2005, 09:12 PM
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Why will Tony ever stop smiling???
He is about to retire as Labour leader...after WINNING elections. Time to put his feet up and drink the champagne
He is about to retire as Labour leader...after WINNING elections. Time to put his feet up and drink the champagne
27 September 2005, 09:14 PM
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Thatcher was the best..
when part of her territory was invaded she stood up and sent in the right people to do the job, she took the flack and had the ***** to do it unlike Mr cheese who had to stand behind loads of spin and bluster..
oh and whilst were on the subject, i believe it was the torys who started the peace process in NI not billy glory seeking stab you in the back chav lover!!
M
when part of her territory was invaded she stood up and sent in the right people to do the job, she took the flack and had the ***** to do it unlike Mr cheese who had to stand behind loads of spin and bluster..
oh and whilst were on the subject, i believe it was the torys who started the peace process in NI not billy glory seeking stab you in the back chav lover!!
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27 September 2005, 10:18 PM
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Just watched Mr Blair speak,
........Blah blah blah
<5 second pause>
Blah blah blah
<5 second pause>
Blah blah blah <raises and lowers both hands in a cutting motion>
Blah blah blah
<5 second pause>
Blah blah blah
<5 second pause>
Blah blah blah
<5 second pause>
Blah blah blah <raises and lowers both hands in a cutting motion>
Blah blah blah
<5 second pause>
Very weak, plastic and uninspriring...completely unable to captivate the audience.
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27 September 2005, 11:34 PM
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He is simply STUNNING!!!
What a Leader, What a man ...............
He will be remembered in 1000 years time - you ****** will be forgotten in 60!!
I may go down in history!?
Pete
What a Leader, What a man ...............
He will be remembered in 1000 years time - you ****** will be forgotten in 60!!
I may go down in history!?
Pete
28 September 2005, 01:19 AM
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Has he saved European democracy (NO!). Has he got a cheesy smile and looks like the gnome in the corner of the garden (YES!).
In our time, well, Mum and Dad's time... Winston Churchill was the leader who had genuine insight into a horrible future and mortgaged the UK's future to ensure the return of democracy to western Europe.
For the freedoms and rights we currently enjoy, remember him....!
J.
In our time, well, Mum and Dad's time... Winston Churchill was the leader who had genuine insight into a horrible future and mortgaged the UK's future to ensure the return of democracy to western Europe.
For the freedoms and rights we currently enjoy, remember him....!
J.
28 September 2005, 06:57 AM
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Sadly this Country is in a worst state than it has ever been in modern times. The Health service is failing, they are just working on stupidly non patient based targets, the schools are failing our children with record levels of truancy, and illiteracy, students are leaving university with no degrees and huge debts, the armed forces are the smallest and getting smaller and most are fighting a pointless war we cant win in some God forsaken place where we are not wanted, we have a huge black hole in our finances to the point where the World Bank are intervening, law and order is at an all time low ................ where to stop?
28 September 2005, 07:17 AM
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He is a good speaker and follows all the rules to whip up his dyed in the wool supporters.
In typical manner he stated all the remedies which have been called for by the people of this country but which have been ignored for all this time so far by the government. If they follow standard NL policy this will be the only time they will have been mentioned and nothing will come of them, as ever.
What really counts as far as being a good leader is concerned is not just being able to talk the talk, but will he have the political will to actually do something about the problems he mentioned. Has not happened so far.
He did spend a lot of time telling us how good he is holding up examples which were not true anyway.
Les
In typical manner he stated all the remedies which have been called for by the people of this country but which have been ignored for all this time so far by the government. If they follow standard NL policy this will be the only time they will have been mentioned and nothing will come of them, as ever.
What really counts as far as being a good leader is concerned is not just being able to talk the talk, but will he have the political will to actually do something about the problems he mentioned. Has not happened so far.
He did spend a lot of time telling us how good he is holding up examples which were not true anyway.
Les
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28 September 2005, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Blair doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Churchill, for instance. Or Thatcher. Or Ghandi. Or Gorbachev. Or Reagan.
Thatcher. Well, apart from my well-known utter hatred of the woman - she and her acolytes decimated my home city - I'd have to say that she was really very effective for her first 5-6 years, and declined alarmingly thereafter.
Ghandi - agree
Gorbachev - more important to the West than to the Russians, if truth be told. They saw everything turn to dust, we saw the end of emnity. I'd agree that he was important, but whether he can be sadi to have led his people is open to some debate.
Reagan - second term was alarmingly hands-off, but agree that he led major change. Still have absolutely no time for what he did.
If we're nominating great political leaders, can I add the following, some of whom are less than household names :
Clement Attlee
Otto von Bismarck
Nelson Mandela
Woodrow Wilson
Harry Truman
28 September 2005, 09:34 AM
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I'm no politician, but let me tell you what I see outside now...anywhere I look virtually
- Chavs...EVERYWHERE!
- A Health Service which is so disorganised and unefficient (my suster is a doctor, and has her hours capped per week....it doesn't matter how many patients she has, she can only work so many hours, so of course the patients are getting less treatment than they need....that is, if she were to listen to the guidelines)
- An Eductaion system that seems to promote a life of dole seeking scroungers. Universities have so called 'basket weaving' courses which anyone can seemingly join just so they can get drunk 6 times a week!
- A police force that concentrate more on the non-violent crimes...and especially with those that aren't really deemed criminal e.g. motoring offences...so much so that we now have a gun culture that is escalating out of hand.
- Illegal imigrants getting a foothold in our country, and are taking benefits from those that really deserve it.
- A PC attitude that seems to reward the bad and punish the good. It is now acceptable to steal cars, shoot people, burgle houses, rape women, kill children....but heaven forbid, if I see you turning a corner without indicating! it's off to tower bridge!!!
- A complete lack of respect for other people and other peoples property...perhaps this is due to the fact that people know they won't really get punished for hitting someone in the street, or stealing a car.
I can remember Margaret Thatcher's government, and that is how I want it now...I say bring back the poll tax, and cut the PC crap...and lets stamp down on the chavs and scroungers that seemingly run this country now!
pslewis....why don't you go and shine Tony's shoes then....afterall, you're just another one of his minions!
- Chavs...EVERYWHERE!
- A Health Service which is so disorganised and unefficient (my suster is a doctor, and has her hours capped per week....it doesn't matter how many patients she has, she can only work so many hours, so of course the patients are getting less treatment than they need....that is, if she were to listen to the guidelines)
- An Eductaion system that seems to promote a life of dole seeking scroungers. Universities have so called 'basket weaving' courses which anyone can seemingly join just so they can get drunk 6 times a week!
- A police force that concentrate more on the non-violent crimes...and especially with those that aren't really deemed criminal e.g. motoring offences...so much so that we now have a gun culture that is escalating out of hand.
- Illegal imigrants getting a foothold in our country, and are taking benefits from those that really deserve it.
- A PC attitude that seems to reward the bad and punish the good. It is now acceptable to steal cars, shoot people, burgle houses, rape women, kill children....but heaven forbid, if I see you turning a corner without indicating! it's off to tower bridge!!!
- A complete lack of respect for other people and other peoples property...perhaps this is due to the fact that people know they won't really get punished for hitting someone in the street, or stealing a car.
I can remember Margaret Thatcher's government, and that is how I want it now...I say bring back the poll tax, and cut the PC crap...and lets stamp down on the chavs and scroungers that seemingly run this country now!
pslewis....why don't you go and shine Tony's shoes then....afterall, you're just another one of his minions!
