Labours new "Death Tax".
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Labours new "Death Tax".
LABOUR has devised a 'death tax' to relieve the huge pressure of council tax on older people.
Council taxes have increased by up to 70% since Labour came to power in 1997 and pensioners have been among the worst hit.
Many couples still in large family homes have found themselves facing soaring council tax bills while trying to live on fixed incomes.
The 'deferred payment' system would remove the immediate burden but allow local authorities to cash in later. Those who own their homes could choose to pay less or avoid the tax altogether.
Councils would then claim back all the tax owing when they die from the value of their home. Their children would pay in full, with interest, when they inherit the property.
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Council taxes have increased by up to 70% since Labour came to power in 1997 and pensioners have been among the worst hit.
Many couples still in large family homes have found themselves facing soaring council tax bills while trying to live on fixed incomes.
The 'deferred payment' system would remove the immediate burden but allow local authorities to cash in later. Those who own their homes could choose to pay less or avoid the tax altogether.
Councils would then claim back all the tax owing when they die from the value of their home. Their children would pay in full, with interest, when they inherit the property.
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Originally Posted by Reality
Maybe the supid old coffin dodgers will stop voting Labour then.
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The "stupid old coffin dodgers", as you so politely put it Reality, will have what you have not got, and that is real experience of life and they will be far wiser than the likes of you.
One thing you should remember is that we are all travelling the same road and if you are lucky enough, old age will eventually catch up with you too. Youth certainly does not give you the right to feel superior and let me remind you that the elderly deserve respect and not the unpleasant attitude that you display to us all.
Les
One thing you should remember is that we are all travelling the same road and if you are lucky enough, old age will eventually catch up with you too. Youth certainly does not give you the right to feel superior and let me remind you that the elderly deserve respect and not the unpleasant attitude that you display to us all.
Les
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Originally Posted by Leslie
The "stupid old coffin dodgers", as you so politely put it Reality, will have what you have not got, and that is real experience of life and they will be far wiser than the likes of you.
One thing you should remember is that we are all travelling the same road and if you are lucky enough, old age will eventually catch up with you too. Youth certainly does not give you the right to feel superior and let me remind you that the elderly deserve respect and not the unpleasant attitude that you display to us all.
Les
One thing you should remember is that we are all travelling the same road and if you are lucky enough, old age will eventually catch up with you too. Youth certainly does not give you the right to feel superior and let me remind you that the elderly deserve respect and not the unpleasant attitude that you display to us all.
Les
You need to earn respect Les - it's not just handed out cos you happen to be a coffin dodger - I won't expect respect when I'm Older - I'll earn it - Just like I do now !
I Respect you Les (You've earnt it) - I treat everyone as I find them.
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So lets see, Labour have;
- ruined pensions for many by removing billions from funds in a tax grab
- students now leave education in massive debt, taking 10-15years to pay off
- nobody can afford to buy a house because theyve allowed prices to boom to fund high street spending
- accumulated massive government debt through borrowing
There has to be a point where they have to say, ok we either cut back on government spending massively, or else everything just goes **** up?
- ruined pensions for many by removing billions from funds in a tax grab
- students now leave education in massive debt, taking 10-15years to pay off
- nobody can afford to buy a house because theyve allowed prices to boom to fund high street spending
- accumulated massive government debt through borrowing
There has to be a point where they have to say, ok we either cut back on government spending massively, or else everything just goes **** up?
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Originally Posted by Petem95
So lets see, Labour have;
- ruined pensions for many by removing billions from funds in a tax grab
- students now leave education in massive debt, taking 10-15years to pay off
- nobody can afford to buy a house because theyve allowed prices to boom to fund high street spending
- accumulated massive government debt through borrowing
There has to be a point where they have to say, ok we either cut back on government spending massively, or else everything just goes **** up?
- ruined pensions for many by removing billions from funds in a tax grab
- students now leave education in massive debt, taking 10-15years to pay off
- nobody can afford to buy a house because theyve allowed prices to boom to fund high street spending
- accumulated massive government debt through borrowing
There has to be a point where they have to say, ok we either cut back on government spending massively, or else everything just goes **** up?
- Prosecuting Illegal Wars
- Pointless Public Sector Jobs
- Paying endless benefits to bugus asulym seekers, immigrants, chavs, pikeys, etc.
- Unrequired follies such as The Olympics
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I still struggle to work out how they are managed to spend all the money they are getting.
The tax take just keeps on growing more and more. All the extra tax they take, yet they still have to borrow, and still we do not have enough money for the services that we want
The tax take just keeps on growing more and more. All the extra tax they take, yet they still have to borrow, and still we do not have enough money for the services that we want
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Spot On!
Originally Posted by unclebuck
Or they could stop wasting Billions of taxpayers' money on:
- Defending worthless South Atlantic Islands just before an election
- Defending the pound and trying to keep it in the ERM
- Paying endless benefits to quangos set up to give jobs to their mates
- Unrequired follies such as The Dome
- Defending worthless South Atlantic Islands just before an election
- Defending the pound and trying to keep it in the ERM
- Paying endless benefits to quangos set up to give jobs to their mates
- Unrequired follies such as The Dome
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I understand your point Reality, yes respect does have to be earned as you say. I understood your remark in that post to show an overall lack of respect for all old people which I reckon would be unfair. I object to ageist criticism for the sake of it.
I don't like paedophiles either-young or old!
I do respect the steadfastness of the elderly lady(73) in Devon who has gone to prison for a week in protest against the excessive increases of Council Tax even though she could have paid what was outstanding.
Les
I don't like paedophiles either-young or old!
I do respect the steadfastness of the elderly lady(73) in Devon who has gone to prison for a week in protest against the excessive increases of Council Tax even though she could have paid what was outstanding.
Les
Last edited by Leslie; 17 August 2005 at 11:51 AM.
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Originally Posted by Leslie
I understand your point Reality, yes respect does have to be earned as you say. I understood your remark in that post to show an overall lack of respect for all old people which I reckon would be unfair. I object to ageist criticism for the sake of it.
I don't like paedophiles either-young or old!
Les
I don't like paedophiles either-young or old!
Les
But I do meet many old folk who whinge about their pension and the council tax who will "always vote Labour - Always have and always will" - They were the people I was referring to
Most Coffin Dodgers I meet are great - and much more entertaining than the youngsters
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Glad you backed down on that theme Reality. There are good and bad at any age and I hate to see older persons being compartmentalised into one category by anyone. Well done Les, once again for speaking up and standing up for both yourself and others.
I'm 54, so I'm not exactly "old" but I'm no teenager either. I like to think I'm sorta in the middle. I'd no more bunch all the young together and call them all chavs, as I'd bunch together all the over 65's and call them all daft old sods. We , as Les said, will all be old, (hopefully) one day. It would serve every one well to consider that fact.
Yve
I'm 54, so I'm not exactly "old" but I'm no teenager either. I like to think I'm sorta in the middle. I'd no more bunch all the young together and call them all chavs, as I'd bunch together all the over 65's and call them all daft old sods. We , as Les said, will all be old, (hopefully) one day. It would serve every one well to consider that fact.
Yve
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
Or they could stop wasting Billions of taxpayers' money on:
- Defending worthless South Atlantic Islands just before an election
- Defending the pound and trying to keep it in the ERM
- Paying endless benefits to quangos set up to give jobs to their mates
- Unrequired follies such as The Dome
surely labour should take the credit for that one
Or they could stop wasting Billions of taxpayers' money on:
- Defending worthless South Atlantic Islands just before an election
- Defending the pound and trying to keep it in the ERM
- Paying endless benefits to quangos set up to give jobs to their mates
- Unrequired follies such as The Dome
Originally Posted by Suresh
Probably the first time we have ever ageed!
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Originally Posted by kingofturds
- Unrequired follies such as The Dome
surely labour should take the credit for that one
- 1994 : Millennium Commission established by Prime Minister John Major and handed over to deputy Prime Minister Michael Heseltine.
- January 1996 : Greenwich site selected. Birmingham, Derby and Stratford had been considered as alternatives.
- December 1996 : Government decides to support the project with public money after being unable to raise private capital.
- 1997 : New Prime Minister Tony Blair decides to continue the project, although his cabinet is not unanimous.
But NL should take credit for the plans for it to be re-used during the 2012 London Olympics for Gymnastics and Basketball events. Well done Tony!
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