paulr

We are always being told watch your weight,exercise and be active.Well Robin Cook was all of these yet he still died of a heart attack.
I'm confused.

Ben WRX Bug-Eye

Genetics mate. Predisposed to what happened. Regardless of how much you exercise and eat well etc, if it’s in your genes that you have a weak heart that’s going to pack up early, there is little you can do. Enjoy life, and I think being active, the correct weight etc does help you do that but your natural cause of death is pretty much pre-determined at conception.

stevem2k

when's the 2 minute silence booked for ?

Scoob99

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Same thing happened to my Mum, but she survived but she did die twice, once in the house and again in the Ambulance but thanks to the skill of the paramedics they bought her back, and even our own Doctor said she was the last person he thought would have an heart attack, sadly it is in the genes!!!!
Cheers
Colin

ozzy

Genes or diet; watching your weight and keeping fit just reduces your chances.

If I was gonna drop down dead, up on the Scottish mountains would be a fantastic place to go.

KiwiGTI

Actually being overweight (within reason) has been removed as one of the leading causes of heart attacks.

Scoob99

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With a few large malts down you

p1doc

lets see he had high blood pressure had a heart attack fell off a mountain and it took the paramedics over 40 minutes to reach him by helicopter and they could not have thromboloysed him due to the injuries in the fall,they only resuscitated him so he woud "die" in a hospital rather than halfway up a hill!
martin

ALi-B

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My dad's heart specialist died of a heart attack....go figure

paulr

If its genetic then why arent men tested at 40,50 and 60 and warned.
Women get tested for breast cancer on the NHS dont they.

MartinM

With regard to my risk of heart attack:
- There is no family history
- I have never smoked
- I eat a healthy diet
- I'm not very overweight (95kg at 6ft 0ins)
- I'm not diabetic
- My alcohol intake is less than 5 units/week
- My cholestrol is 5.6 (*)
- I am pretty fit (cycling, erg'ing and skiing)
- I'm not that old (well, 48 tbh)
- all my private medicals for the last n years have said I am at extremely low risk of coronary heart disease
- but I do have a stressful job (**)

At 02.00 on 15 March I woke up in the middle having a heart attack. Prompt ambulance attendance and great NHS care in the Cardiology Centre in the BRI in Bristol and I was angiogrammed/angioplasty'ed/stent'ed within 36 hours. 9 weeks off 'on the sick' and 4 week phased return to work.


Sometimes, things just ain't fair....


(*) Cholestrol now 2.8 and still falling (80mg Atorvastatin per day - thankyou Mr Pfizer)
(**) Still have the same job, but now working it in a less stressful way

BTW, I am told that 40% of first-time heart attacks are fatal, and if you survive that without treatment there is a 25% chance of having another, fatal, one the next day.

EDIT: Screening is very difficult, since it is currently an invasive time consuming procedure (angiogram) to see the state of your coronary arteries. I read in an IEE journal today that it, in the near future, the capability will exist to do CT scans of the all the coronary arteries in the heart to a resolution of 0.3mm within the time of a single heart beat - and obviously non invasively. Then the software works on the scans and presents a colour 3-D graphic view of the heart and the arteries. When (if) this comes in, then screening will presumably start to be much more routine

turboman786

It's simply a case that when your time is up, it's up....death is one of the few things in life that is guaranteed,

Scoob99

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Cheerful to read on a Sunday!!!!!!!!!!

ChrisB

I said exactly that to my girlfriend when we were watching the news last night Ozzy. By the sounds of it no pain or suffering and on top of the world doing something you love.

logiclee

For me........

No family history.
Never Smoked
Healthy diet.
Not overweight 5'9" and 11.5 stone
Not diabetic.
Cholestrol 4.6
Blood pressure normal.
Alchohol intake less than recommended units.
Pretty active.
Have a very stressfull job.

And last year at 35years of age suffered a heart attack in the early hours in the morning while in bed.
The only thing I did have was severe food poisoning a few days before and was hardly eating.

I now eat very healthily, go to the gym and swim three or four times a week and do a bit of mounting bikeing.
Oh and also have to take loads of drugs.

As to work, I dont let it bother me as much and have more time off.

You never know whats round the corner.

Cheers
Lee

MartinM

Well mine f$$$$$g hurt - worse pain I've ever had

Lee - OK, you win the bragging competition. Hope you keep well

16vmarc

I reckon the beard was to answer for it.

logiclee

Good health to you as well mate.

It was the worse pain I have ever had as well, many people I met said they didn't have much pain but an intense crushing sensation.

I went through an excellent rehabilitation program, really helped me a lot.

Only good thing was I had last summer off work.

Cheers
Lee

KiwiGTI

A heart attack is extremely rare though at 35, usually related to genetic or congenital problems that have never been detected.

They said Robin Cook as suffered extensive head and neck injuries which can't have helped.

RussBoy

I don't know what you lot are worried about: I'm 33, insulin dependent diabetic, high blood pressure, drink more than recommended units, both grandfathers were diabetics and family history of heart disease (Dad died at 56 from cardiac), but.... diet is VERY healthy now (result of 5 years diabetes), I'm there or thereabouts on weight, have 4.9 cholestrol and the fact I *know* I'm at risk has helped me re-evaluate my life. I've just bought a house in Spain and am moving there in about 10 weeks time (heat helps my diabetes for some reason).

At the end of the day I think we are all going to go one way or another and 'm thankful I've at least had the chance to try and sort my life out. I can honestly say I live my life by the day and enjoy life to the full now (I've owned some great cars, am married to a gorgeous woman, have had flying lessons ina stunt plane, have travelled the world and ironically feel healthier than ever before...)

I totally agree though - you never know what is around the corner...


Russ

logiclee

As p1doc says the major factor would be that Robin wasn't thrombolysed. The sooner you are started on the clot busting treatment the better chance you have. I live two miles from hospital and received treatment very quicklyI'm lucky as there isn't much damage to my heart.

Cheers
Lee

Scoob99

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You never know whats round that corner.

Leslie

I was lucky-the angina warned me before I had a heart attack-the quad bypass sorted it, the Atorvastatin pills and a small aspirin every morning does the trick they say!

Les