Detecting Bombs in Rucksacks
26 July 2005, 01:51 PM
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Detecting Bombs in Rucksacks
Haven't been around for a while, so apologies if this has been covered already. Thing is I'm curious about 'new security measures' and 'methods for detecting bombs in rucksacks' etc that are currently being developed to be used in places like the tube network.
All the articles I've read/ heard have focused on how to detect them and keep the passenger flow at a sensible rate.
My question is this - if you're dealing with a suicide bomber - and if some scanner detected that they were carrying a bomb, then what?
Who's going to apprehend them? By the time the police arrived they person would already be on their way. If anyone else tried to stop them with an 'excuse me sir/ madam but their appears to be something irregular with your rucksack' then they're just going to hit the detonator there and then.
I know there's a lot of debate around the shooting last week - but this is a bit of a different question. What are the people developing these machines hoping to acheive?
All the articles I've read/ heard have focused on how to detect them and keep the passenger flow at a sensible rate.
My question is this - if you're dealing with a suicide bomber - and if some scanner detected that they were carrying a bomb, then what?
Who's going to apprehend them? By the time the police arrived they person would already be on their way. If anyone else tried to stop them with an 'excuse me sir/ madam but their appears to be something irregular with your rucksack' then they're just going to hit the detonator there and then.
I know there's a lot of debate around the shooting last week - but this is a bit of a different question. What are the people developing these machines hoping to acheive?
26 July 2005, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiggs
have them pass through a big box to be scanned - if its a bomb just blow them up in the box!
Damn right, simple but brilliant idea!
26 July 2005, 02:17 PM
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just imagine.......3 ques to the box scanners and you have to pick the one that has a blow up in front of you meaning 5 mins wait while they hose down.................always the way!
26 July 2005, 02:24 PM
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You stop suicide bombers by shooting anybody buying more than 50 litres of weedkiller in one go (apologies to any serious self-sufficiency gardeners out there).
Searches etc would only shift the targets
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Searches etc would only shift the targets
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Originally Posted by Reality
You stop suicide bombers by shooting anybody buying more than 50 litres of weedkiller in one go (apologies to any serious self-sufficiency gardeners out there).
26 July 2005, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Reality
You stop suicide bombers by shooting anybody buying more than 50 litres of weedkiller in one go (apologies to any serious self-sufficiency gardeners out there).
Searches etc would only shift the targets.
Searches etc would only shift the targets
.Besides the bombs in question were acetone peroxide IIRC, which can be made easily from Hydrogen Peroxide, Acetone and Sulphuric acid. The basic components are easy enough to get hold of and the receipe can be found on the web easily enough.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetone_peroxide
26 July 2005, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
Better shoot anybody buying diesel and sugar as well then.
Besides the bombs in question were acetone peroxide IIRC, which can be made easily from Hydrogen Peroxide, Acetone and Sulphuric acid. The basic components are easy enough to get hold of and the receipe can be found on the web easily enough.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetone_peroxide
Besides the bombs in question were acetone peroxide IIRC, which can be made easily from Hydrogen Peroxide, Acetone and Sulphuric acid. The basic components are easy enough to get hold of and the receipe can be found on the web easily enough.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetone_peroxide
26 July 2005, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Reality
Is that link MI5 / SO13 Safe
26 July 2005, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
Lol - yeah, it's wikipedia, it just explains about the chemical and its uses, not how to make bombs!
26 July 2005, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by sociopath
I find it safer to assume all asians carrying rucksacks are bombers. It's kept me alive this far.
26 July 2005, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
Im not clicking that!!!!
I went to school with a recent would be- but arrested and now convicted suicide bomber so its a fair bet MI5 etc have already run a check on me and anyone else that knew him! If I click that I fear I may have the feds round with the rubber gloves and be wearing an orange jump suit before you know it
26 July 2005, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Freak
Im not clicking that!!!!
I went to school with a recent would be- but arrested and now convicted suicide bomber so its a fair bet MI5 etc have already run a check on me and anyone else that knew him! If I click that I fear I may have the feds round with the rubber gloves and be wearing an orange jump suit before you know it
I went to school with a recent would be- but arrested and now convicted suicide bomber so its a fair bet MI5 etc have already run a check on me and anyone else that knew him! If I click that I fear I may have the feds round with the rubber gloves and be wearing an orange jump suit before you know it
shouldnt that be "failed" suicide bomber??
LOL
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27 July 2005, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Jap2Scrap
I looked into being a suicide bomber but the pension scheme was cr&p 
"Once in a lifetime opportunity ..."
Thanks to the missus for that one
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27 July 2005, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by mart360
shouldnt that be "failed" suicide bomber??
LOL
mart
LOL
mart
You can't use the " f " word anymore.
He was a deferred success suicide bomber.
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