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Old 06 April 2005, 09:03 AM
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Question Joss Stone's 'Mind, Body & Soul’

My CD player shows (and plays) 10 minutes of silence before the final track

1. Is it just my equipment or is this a feature of this CD?
2. Is there ten minutes worth of zeros on the CD or is it done by programming?
3. What is the bloody point It's really irritating waiting for the ten minutes to pass before the last track, or taking your eyes off the road to fast forward through it. I can't 'goto' next track because its the end of the CD It's not like a DVD easter egg is it? The hi-fi player shows that there's another track to come.

Big thumbs down from me.</rant>
Old 06 April 2005, 09:15 AM
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it is indeed an easter egg. . . . quite why they do it I don't know.

Try this CD - much better IMHO:

Jill Scott : Who is Jill Scott
Old 06 April 2005, 09:19 AM
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yeah it's just a secret track...loads of bands do it...some even more irritating with 20 tracks at 5 seconds each of nothing
Old 06 April 2005, 09:32 AM
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sounds like ya need to copy the cd to your computer and burn a new one without the silence.. problem solved
Old 06 April 2005, 10:41 AM
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Given that it's the second dullest album of all time (Katie Melua is the clear winner) the question has to be ..... who cares?
Old 06 April 2005, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Kyl3cook
yeah it's just a secret track...loads of bands do it...some even more irritating with 20 tracks at 5 seconds each of nothing
Sounds like someone's got Korn's Follow The Leader cd The first 10 tracks are 5 second silences and the album proper starts at 11.
Old 06 April 2005, 12:02 PM
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If her records were banned (for impersonating fog horns from around the world), which they should be - then you'd never have found the hidden track...
Old 06 April 2005, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by the moose
Given that it's the second dullest album of all time (Katie Melua is the clear winner) the question has to be ..... who cares?
I quite liked Joss Stone's first album, but it sounds like this one is worth giving a miss. the first one did benefit from being populated by several soul legends (excluding JS, of course)
Old 06 April 2005, 03:41 PM
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Sorry, for us old fogies, WTF is a DVD easter egg / secret track?
Old 06 April 2005, 05:12 PM
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A track not listed on the case. Sometimes when you put the CD in the player it correctly identifies the real number of tracks - say 11 rather than the 10 listed - but more commonly it's actually added to the last track, with several minutes of silence between the two songs. It goes back a while: "Nevermind" has a secret track. It means you need to leave the CD ontil it shows it has finished playing.

Just to be even more confusing, the secret track on Cheryl Crow's "The Globe Sessions" is actually after the second-last track, but usually it's at the very end.


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Old 06 April 2005, 05:12 PM
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There's one on Alanis Nicorette's Jagged little pill too, and Nobbie Williams' first album, both good tunes but I don't feel the need for the gap!
Old 06 April 2005, 05:16 PM
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Thanks M. Remarkable - they go to all the lengths to record a track, and then hide it. The logic escapes me, perhaps I need drugs.
Old 06 April 2005, 05:22 PM
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But just think how exciting it is when you first find it!

Old 06 April 2005, 05:33 PM
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... after ten minutes driving around wondering whether your CD player has a fault
Old 06 April 2005, 05:53 PM
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Sod the Mind and Soul..... lets look at the body


Old 06 April 2005, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Jap2Scrap
Sounds like someone's got Korn's Follow The Leader cd The first 10 tracks are 5 second silences and the album proper starts at 11.
Top memory!! Had completely forgotten about that record...

Or very similar - 'Second Coming' by the Stone Roses has 99 or so tracks - most of them blank
Old 06 April 2005, 07:22 PM
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you can also have "hidden tracks" prior to the 1st track

Play track1 and rewind

There's one on a well known album I've done, where the band's tour manager fell asleep on the couch in the studio - I taped it, put a lullaby behind it and we put it on the album

I put it on the end though - just easier!!



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Old 06 April 2005, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Jap2Scrap
Sounds like someone's got Korn's Follow The Leader cd The first 10 tracks are 5 second silences and the album proper starts at 11.
unfortunately not....it's a lot more embarassing than that ...well, it's not *that* bad.....Bowling for Soup...the words are quite entertaining.

e.g. 'and she makes me want to be a homosexual. Maybe I'll be her best friend; maybe see her naked once in a while'
Old 06 April 2005, 10:33 PM
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Bloody Easter Eggs!!!!!!

They are all well and good, having 'hidden' tracks on CD's and DVD's, but a ncouple of things annoy me:

firstly - who the hell finds these things? is there an army of geeks out there, playing track 6 four times followed bu up, downup, down.....FFS

secondly - the easter egg thing only works WHEN PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT!!! so if you do insist on putting easter eggs on a CD/DVD, provide folks with the onfo on how to access it!!!!

<rant mode off>
Old 06 April 2005, 10:48 PM
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I tend to find them by being too lazy to get up and change the CD!


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Old 06 April 2005, 11:46 PM
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I'd like to dump a load of my wotsit in her thingy Ohhh yeah, majorly.
Old 07 April 2005, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by BOB.T
There's one on Alanis Nicorette's Jagged little pill too, and Nobbie Williams' first album, both good tunes but I don't feel the need for the gap!
AFAIK - These were done in the days of 74 min CDRs to prevent copying.
The space inbetween the songs is still audio taking the albums to 80 mins, thus too big to fit on 74 min (650mb) CDRs.

If you open the audio files in a wave editor you can see the silence in the tracks.

HTH
Old 07 April 2005, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by spufus
AFAIK - These were done in the days of 74 min CDRs to prevent copying.
The space inbetween the songs is still audio taking the albums to 80 mins, thus too big to fit on 74 min (650mb) CDRs.
Good theory except that "Nevermind" complete with secret track and three minutes silence is less than 60 minutes long; the Cowboy Junkies album "Miles from our Home" complete with silence and extra track is less than 50 minutes long, etc.

No, they are exactly what they appear to be: Easter Eggs. The long silence is just there to help keep it a secret.


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Old 07 April 2005, 07:36 AM
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Dunno which one, but there's a Blobby Williams album that has loads of silence at the end, followed by something like 'No, I'm not doing another one of those...'

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Old 07 April 2005, 09:38 AM
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Given that it's the second dullest album of all time (Katie Melua is the clear winner) the question has to be ..... who cares?
The most accurate review of this album I've heard

Utter tosh from start to finish
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