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Old 11 March 2005, 11:40 AM
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Default How can i get a SIM card cloned?

If i want to use two phones on the same line without having to swap the SIM back and forth can i get the SIM cloned?


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Old 11 March 2005, 11:50 AM
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No, and even if you did the networks may sniff it out.
There was a time at which you could clone some GSM cards but the technology has been updated since.
Old 11 March 2005, 11:52 AM
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flippin heck...its never the laws that you want to break that you can!
Old 11 March 2005, 11:56 AM
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Tiggs, excuse my ignorance but why do you want to use two phones?
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built in car phone and mobile
Old 11 March 2005, 11:59 AM
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Tiggs, doesn't help you in the UK but I lost my phone with SIM here in Portugal, walked into the [O2-equivalent] shop and told them, and walked out again 5 mins later with a new SIM, same number, for free. Done it with son's phone as well.

Perhaps the difference is that they cancelled the old one at the same time - you don't want that.
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With a lost SIM they should immediately bar it. That's why the can then issue a new one. If they just left the other open, then the ****** would have free calls.

Tiggs,

Seems a very obvious and real reason, but its wide open to being abused and I can see why the networks would simply say no to it - simplest way of preventing crimes.

Stefan

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I've got an old styley GSM car phone lying around and would love to have that installed but it's all car kits, bluetooth etc now.
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Originally Posted by Tiggs
built in car phone and mobile
understand now
Old 11 March 2005, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Brendan Hughes
Tiggs, doesn't help you in the UK but I lost my phone with SIM here in Portugal, walked into the [O2-equivalent] shop and told them, and walked out again 5 mins later with a new SIM, same number, for free. Done it with son's phone as well.

Perhaps the difference is that they cancelled the old one at the same time - you don't want that.
Hello

Each phone number (well, account) has the SIM number associated with it, so the provider knows which sim card to connect to. To swap SIM's you just change the SIM number on the account.

To answer TIGG's question, it's extemely illegal but have a look here: http://members.lycos.co.uk/gsmlive2003/

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Originally Posted by Brendan Hughes
Perhaps the difference is that they cancelled the old one at the same time - you don't want that.
Your new mobile number would have been registered to the unique serial number on the new sim, so would make the old card redundant straight away.
Old 11 March 2005, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by boxst
Hello

Each phone number (well, account) has the SIM number associated with it, so the provider knows which sim card to connect to. To swap SIM's you just change the SIM number on the account.

To answer TIGG's question, it's extemely illegal but have a look here: http://members.lycos.co.uk/gsmlive2003/

Steve.

thanks steve.......looks like just the thing!
Old 11 March 2005, 12:30 PM
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which one would you answer? wouldn't they both start ringing at the sane time?
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they wouldnt be turned on at the same time.
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My better half has got 2 sims with the same account. She just told them the old one was getting worn and needed jiggling sometimes. They sent out a replacement free and both work still.

Try it out. Nothing to lose.
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sounds odd? i would assume the old one would get cut off?
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Nope. Well not hers anyway. She's still using the old one. The replacement has been tried out and is now sat in the drawer. They both work fine.
Old 11 March 2005, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Jap2Scrap
Nope. Well not hers anyway. She's still using the old one. The replacement has been tried out and is now sat in the drawer. They both work fine.
I had the same thing happen - however when the new sim arrived, the old one had stopped working - it came up on the phone as "inactive sim" - so you may just have got lucky!!
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It is physically possible...but the networks won't let you.

Had a few customers who had Bentleys and Aston Martins (car phone fitted as standard) ask me this. The only way round it at the time was to setup the lesser used phone (the car phone in this case) with another SIM on a different phone number and set up call divert on the mobile, so it would send the calls to the car phone.

I'm sure there is a way, all you need to do is make an exact replica of your current SIM card. I knew it was possible at one time to emulate a SIM using a PIC microcontroller, some open source code (well, only within confined circles ). Usually this trick was used for pirate satelite. But obviously on a phone it would mean you would have to hack it about and solder in various bits for it to work.
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Vodafone will let you do it. they call it multi sim. Our CEO has got a built in car phone and a mobile both on the same number

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Old 11 March 2005, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyDaz
Vodafone will let you do it. they call it multi sim. Our CEO has got a built in car phone and a mobile both on the same number

Daz
My girlfriend's on Vodafone. May account for why they didn't bat an eyelid at giving her a copy of hers.
Old 11 March 2005, 03:47 PM
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They all have them here in Norway. They have one in the car and one in the mobile. Cant see why it would be in any way illegal, it just that the networks cant be bothered doing it cause it doesnt produce any more revenue.
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
I'm sure there is a way, all you need to do is make an exact replica of your current SIM card. I knew it was possible at one time to emulate a SIM using a PIC microcontroller, some open source code (well, only within confined circles )
This hack was then turned into a saleable product where you could have multiple numbers in one card. The industry wasn't too happy about it. Data read from cards issued in the last 3 years won't work anyway because the encryption has been modified.
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Vodafone have offered this service for years at £6/month.

I can't see it not being the case now except it might be a little dearer.

http://www.vodafone.co.uk/cgi-bin/CO...cegjdgnfdffn.0

I see it's now £7 + VAT/month.

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