farmer1

Last video in particular:

http://fat-pie.com/chavs.htm

penfold118

The guy in the last one freaks me out...!!

ALi-B

iTrader: (1)

Jeeze that last one is worse that some of the kids round here

Somebody please shoot him, and put him out his mental tourment

mj

not like our mate devvo then?

watch tuesday's video, it would appear he is a bit of a catch with the ladies

trails

iTrader: (41)

its worth watching the five salad fingers cartoons too...nasty!!

m3matt

tossers

corradoboy

If there ever was justification for sterilisation at birth, that is it. Unfortunately it's too late, this plague is over-running us.

matty01

The saddest thing is that if he was removed from his parents and surroundings at birth and given a different start he could have had a future better than bieng a drug addict/abuser/dealer .If you were born him and not you thats just what you would be like,but you weren't you were born you ,be gratefull for that.You didn't choose your parents or your class,or your IQ ,or your common sense ,or lifes hardships/heartaches,and neither did this poor unfortunate soul.Not everybody is as steadfast and sensible as the average citizen.It's very easy to condemn and i fall into this trap too ,on the outside ,but deep down you know it is pity and compassion you feel,if you don't feel it ...look deeper.There but for the grace of God go i...or you !!

...the poor *******.

mj

or on the flipside, he could just be an arsehole.

plenty of people are born without priviledges.

matty01

He may be an arsehole but did he actively Choose to be one or has he just turned out as one?

mj

I personally would think that people like him choose to be. I can't believe that everything/everyone he has ever encountered has had such an influence that he just ended up being the waste of space he is, doesent happen IMO.

matty01

If he chose to be like that did he choose to be the type of person to be likely to make that sort of decision,did he choose this did he choose that ,the big philosophical question brings us to this impass "Do humans have free will"
Yes, you may think, and to prove it make a few off the cuff decisions/choices,but no-one in the history of the planet to the present day has ever been able to PROVE it either way, our conjecture as to the young mans condition boils down to this "Is he [any human] able to make free will choices? " we may never know.....

ALi-B

iTrader: (1)

Free will is dictated by government, family, social circles and wealth. Nobody is "free".

matty01

FreeDOM is but FREE WILL will is not.

ALi-B

iTrader: (1)

But both are inseparably linked.

mj

thanks for clearing it up, now I see ....

Jap2Scrap

You know what makes me seethe? It's when you hear parents or kids say, "Well there's nothing else for them to do," when it's brought into question why they have to hang around outside Spar or by the bus station or go around in gangs making life miserable for people or keying cars for fun

B*llocks to that! There was much less for us to do when I was that age! No playstation/Xbox (ok I had a 48k spectrum but you could waste a whole evening trying to load a game!), no shops open after 5, wednesday afternoons, SUNDAYS! Nothing like the amount of cinemas, complexes, skate parks, etc. Crap TV and certainly no MTV, etc. In fact very little aimed at kids whatsoever. We barely had our own identity and couldn't wait to be 16/18 so we counted in the world. Kids nowadays dread being 16/18 cos that's the end to the freedom of being relatively free from prosecution. Anyway, drifted off-topic a bit there.

The bloke should have been drowned at birth and the sooner they raise the legal limit for abortion to 16 years the better.

warrenm2

Sorry mate but this arguement is actually part of the problem. You seem to be implying that ppl brought up in sh*t surroundings, turn out like waster ********. Thats actually a stereotype just as bad as the knee jerk right wing stuff you see around here. A not insignificant amount of ppl brought up in those conditions turn out ot be decent ppl. Making excuses for the ones who dont isnt helping anyone, even (or maybe especially) if you think you are. It comes back down to personal responsibility, as does so many things.

scott8629

I doubt this is real.
I live in Hull and he sounds nothing like the chav's around here!