2.7M People on Incapacity Benefit
2.7M People on Incapacity Benefit
15 December 2004, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Pastor
How does one get on this gravytrain? I'm a workshy layabout so any tips would be appreciated.
Y has a job. Y is then involved in a car crash, and sustains injuries. Y takes time off work. Y starts to file a personal injury claim against the insurers of whoever's car he was in at the time of the accident. Y is off sick for so long, in the interests of furthering his claim, that his SSP runs out (26 weeks). Y's employer throws up their hands and says WTF am I supposed to do now? Y's employer gets some DSS forms, fills them in, and now Y has joined the ranks of the "incapacitated".
15 December 2004, 12:20 PM
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...and gets a likkle orange sticker for the scoob along with free congestion charge access??
blimey, i'm gonna slam my brakes on in front of an artic tonight (in the rain)
see you at the post office!!
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blimey, i'm gonna slam my brakes on in front of an artic tonight (in the rain)
see you at the post office!!
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15 December 2004, 12:20 PM
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Dont forget they're a important part of the economy. They receive £138bn per year - which is more than is spent on law & order, defence, debt interest, industry, agriculture, employment initiatives, housing, environment and transport ....
PUT TOGETHER!!!
PUT TOGETHER!!!
15 December 2004, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Pastor
How does one get on this gravytrain? I'm a workshy layabout so any tips would be appreciated.
Dr Nick: "Don't chew gum, chew bacon"
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15 December 2004, 12:22 PM
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2.7 million, thats a pretty big percentage of the amount of people of working age.
Personally I know of several people in their 20's who have managed to get on this gravy train. They all live in a flat together and seem to spend their lives getting up at 2PM and smoking dope all day. None of them have ever worked a day in their lives and are highly unlikely to ever do so. One of them has a slightly dodgy knee (They don't need sticks to walk or anything) and the other one apparently has depression.
Add onto this the free accomodation and the (brand new) motability car and you start to wonder if there is any point working.
Personally I know of several people in their 20's who have managed to get on this gravy train. They all live in a flat together and seem to spend their lives getting up at 2PM and smoking dope all day. None of them have ever worked a day in their lives and are highly unlikely to ever do so. One of them has a slightly dodgy knee (They don't need sticks to walk or anything) and the other one apparently has depression.
Add onto this the free accomodation and the (brand new) motability car and you start to wonder if there is any point working.
15 December 2004, 01:04 PM
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Most of that 2.7 million are workshy, grasping scum who drain our taxes away. Professional sick pay scroungers and malingerers. You 'll find they all smoke loads of **** and guzzle booze all day at our expense.
Bring back National Service for these asthenic arseholes is what I say.
Bring back National Service for these asthenic arseholes is what I say.
15 December 2004, 01:33 PM
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So if you have a dodgy knee/back or whatever it happens to be, you can't get to work and sit in an office chair moving a mouse around all day or work in a call centre!
Takes the pi55. All benifits should be for a limited time of say 6 months, if you can't get a job try harder or starve, simple!
Didn't have handouts like this is the 40's - people managed then! just! but why should a 3rd of my pay packet go to pay for someone else widescreen tv?
Takes the pi55. All benifits should be for a limited time of say 6 months, if you can't get a job try harder or starve, simple!
Didn't have handouts like this is the 40's - people managed then! just! but why should a 3rd of my pay packet go to pay for someone else widescreen tv?
15 December 2004, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ocean
Most of that 2.7 million are workshy, grasping scum who drain our taxes away. Professional sick pay scroungers and malingerers. You 'll find they all smoke loads of **** and guzzle booze all day at our expense.
Bring back National Service for these asthenic arseholes is what I say.
Bring back National Service for these asthenic arseholes is what I say.
15 December 2004, 03:05 PM
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GC8 - not that stupid. A little over the top maybe .... You have to admit that the number of people that have a genuine reason to be on *incapacity* benefit is nowhere near that number. If it was the towns would be overrun with wheelchairs.
Tyhe previous example of the bloke with a dodgy knee - I had a steel pin in my femur and was using a stick for a while. I still parked at the end of the car park and didn't expect any special facilities 'cos I had a gammy leg!
But, as a similar thread summarised before, the compliants/anger should be directed at the liberal left-wing socialist plonkers who came up with the stupid rules. But them we'll never have a political system where common sense rules .....
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Tyhe previous example of the bloke with a dodgy knee - I had a steel pin in my femur and was using a stick for a while. I still parked at the end of the car park and didn't expect any special facilities 'cos I had a gammy leg!
But, as a similar thread summarised before, the compliants/anger should be directed at the liberal left-wing socialist plonkers who came up with the stupid rules. But them we'll never have a political system where common sense rules .....
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15 December 2004, 03:13 PM
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I think that there is some confusion here (and a lot stupidity); Incapacity Benefit has nothing to do with wheelchairs, orange badges and for most people its ony 25p more than JSA.
15 December 2004, 03:24 PM
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Typical tar them with the same brush Scoobynet attitude.
I'm on Incapacity Benefit - I don't take any of the £60 a week I'm due, I just get my NI paid. I've woked for 30years without being unemployed and have paid enough tax in that time to fund a small country. I own my house, pay all my bills including community tax and recieve nothing off the state. My wife works full time.
Oh and the reason I'm on Incapacity Benefit is I suffer from kidney problems which means I'm on painkillers all the time(and I don't mean aspirin). I'm due to go into hospital for either denervation or removal of the kidney.
So take your generalisations and stick them.
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I'm on Incapacity Benefit - I don't take any of the £60 a week I'm due, I just get my NI paid. I've woked for 30years without being unemployed and have paid enough tax in that time to fund a small country. I own my house, pay all my bills including community tax and recieve nothing off the state. My wife works full time.
Oh and the reason I'm on Incapacity Benefit is I suffer from kidney problems which means I'm on painkillers all the time(and I don't mean aspirin). I'm due to go into hospital for either denervation or removal of the kidney.
So take your generalisations and stick them.
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15 December 2004, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Alas
Typical tar them with the same brush Scoobynet attitude.
2,699,999 people on incapacity benefit.
15 December 2004, 03:31 PM
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ex mrs mum was on disability
had to walk with a stick, got a new motability car every year, orange/blue badge, cash and all the rest of it
She had hurt her back at work (fell down allegedly) and couldnt work..
Funny that- she managed to do a bit of part time cleaning cash in hand, and use a computer and sit on her *** all day no problem...... why she couldnt continue doing her job (was a receptionist type job which funnily enough involved sitting on her *** all day and using a computer) is beyond me
Scrounging fat wench
Obviously there are genuine cases- and thats fair enough. no problem with that at all.
had to walk with a stick, got a new motability car every year, orange/blue badge, cash and all the rest of it
She had hurt her back at work (fell down allegedly) and couldnt work..
Funny that- she managed to do a bit of part time cleaning cash in hand, and use a computer and sit on her *** all day no problem...... why she couldnt continue doing her job (was a receptionist type job which funnily enough involved sitting on her *** all day and using a computer) is beyond me
Scrounging fat wench
Obviously there are genuine cases- and thats fair enough. no problem with that at all.
15 December 2004, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ProperCharlie
ok - let's start a new thread
2,699,999 people on incapacity benefit.
2,699,999 people on incapacity benefit.
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15 December 2004, 03:39 PM
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Alas - I wasn't having a go at 'deserving' cases - just cases like Freak mentions. I alos know someone who is off work with a *bad back* and on incapacity benefit but is quite able to drive wherever he likes and walk around town visiting pubs all night .....
Oh, and all those poor dears off with *stress or stress related* problems ..... a swift kick up the **** and told to get back to work would be the best treatment .....
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Oh, and all those poor dears off with *stress or stress related* problems ..... a swift kick up the **** and told to get back to work would be the best treatment .....
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15 December 2004, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by hutton_d
Alas - I wasn't having a go at 'deserving' cases - just cases like Freak mentions. I alos know someone who is off work with a *bad back* and on incapacity benefit but is quite able to drive wherever he likes and walk around town visiting pubs all night .....
Oh, and all those poor dears off with *stress or stress related* problems ..... a swift kick up the **** and told to get back to work would be the best treatment .....
Dave
Oh, and all those poor dears off with *stress or stress related* problems ..... a swift kick up the **** and told to get back to work would be the best treatment .....
Dave
15 December 2004, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by GC8
You really are stupid arent you?
15 December 2004, 04:54 PM
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Guy very "local" to me is on it.
Limps like a good en with his stick.... poor lad. His back is apparently in his words “shot”
But come night time or when he's in his back garden, my my what a transformation, no limp and has the amazing ability to carry large heavy objects at will … quite amazing.
Must be something to do with sunlight or something
Limps like a good en with his stick.... poor lad. His back is apparently in his words “shot”
But come night time or when he's in his back garden, my my what a transformation, no limp and has the amazing ability to carry large heavy objects at will … quite amazing.
Must be something to do with sunlight or something
15 December 2004, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by GC8
I think that there is some confusion here (and a lot stupidity); Incapacity Benefit has nothing to do with wheelchairs, orange badges and for most people its ony 25p more than JSA.
I was made redundant from my last job and decided out of principle to sign on straight away. I am a homeowner and have never been unemployed before and I was entitled to just over £50 a week. How am I supposed to live on that? How come I have worked my whole life and get £50 a week and others who have never worked get given hundreds of pounds a week?
Plus there wasn't even anywhere at the dole office to park my convertible.
15 December 2004, 06:50 PM
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Honestly guys....what with this anyway...the government obviously know whats going on but they let it be...why is that? what benefit is it for them to turn a blind eye to this problem?
Maybe we are just muppets for paying 40% of our wages to these parasites (parasites - referring to the non-genuine cases).
I can see why asylum seekers want to come over to our holiday island
Maybe we are just muppets for paying 40% of our wages to these parasites (parasites - referring to the non-genuine cases).
I can see why asylum seekers want to come over to our holiday island
15 December 2004, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeyDeacon
But what it does mean is that you can live the rest of your life on benefits without having to ever even pretend to look for a job. I suppose you don't even need to bother signing on every two weeks either (Bang out of order that some of the signing on appointments are in the morning)
I was made redundant from my last job and decided out of principle to sign on straight away. I am a homeowner and have never been unemployed before and I was entitled to just over £50 a week. How am I supposed to live on that? How come I have worked my whole life and get £50 a week and others who have never worked get given hundreds of pounds a week?
Plus there wasn't even anywhere at the dole office to park my convertible.
I was made redundant from my last job and decided out of principle to sign on straight away. I am a homeowner and have never been unemployed before and I was entitled to just over £50 a week. How am I supposed to live on that? How come I have worked my whole life and get £50 a week and others who have never worked get given hundreds of pounds a week?
Plus there wasn't even anywhere at the dole office to park my convertible.
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Originally Posted by imi
Honestly guys....what with this anyway...the government obviously know whats going on but they let it be...why is that? what benefit is it for them to turn a blind eye to this problem?
Maybe we are just muppets for paying 40% of our wages to these parasites (parasites - referring to the non-genuine cases).
I can see why asylum seekers want to come over to our holiday island
Maybe we are just muppets for paying 40% of our wages to these parasites (parasites - referring to the non-genuine cases).
I can see why asylum seekers want to come over to our holiday island
1) Go on JSA instead and the jobless figures will skyrocket, putting all of New Liar out of their jobs
2) Break into our houses (armed, of course) and nick our nice cars
My bro is on Incapacity Benefit. He hates being on it. He also hates being so sick he's unable to function as a human being most of the time. I hate worrying about him calling it a day and topping himself. Both of us hate the spongers who make the whole scheme so expensive that society can't properly support the genuinely needy who are unable to do extra work for cash-in-hand.