FollowThrough

what's the best time to fire someone

Fri afernoon or Monday morning

NotoriousREV

Friday afternoon, I hate getting up for work on a monday and it gives me the weekend to burn the office down.

Fluffer

friday afternoon- but do it early so they have time to get down to the pub.

FollowThrough

Friday will give the weekend to get over it

Monday he'll be able to get on a find another job

TurboKitty

Alternative view, if you do it on Friday it'll probably ruin his weekend and because he can't get on with job hunting immediately he might be more likely to sit around and dwell on it. Depending on his nature that could lead to problems. If he's likely to go out drinking over the weekend, that could make it worse.

Just my thoughts...

krankyd

lol - fire him before his 2-week annual holiday!

even better, e-mail him to say he's fired. Mabey you can leave a memo on his desk? along with a tesco's plastic bag for all of his stuff?

You could tell him the company has decided on a clear desk policy, but in his case it's a completly empty desk policy

mj

what's he done to deserve the sack?

bros2

The day doesn't matter to the person, but best to do it first thing, get them out of there immediately.

From the remaining employees persepctive, better to have it before lunch on a Friday so that they can talk about it over lunch but forget about it over the weekend.

FollowThrough

called a customer an arrogant **** in front of other customers and a director

not a good career move

TopBanana

Off with his head! Fire him as soon as you've decided to do so.

FollowThrough

I am trying to establish the facts, the director has suspended him, I have to do the dirty work

darlodge

Best way to sick him is to get him to read this post

Anyway, I'd say Friday.

Darren

FollowThrough

I am trying to contact the customer

mj

what about disciplinary procedures - are you sure you can fire him straight away?

we fired a bloke a while ago for dropping something on someone else's toe and chopping it off - it was no accident, the bloke in question was a clumsy git full stop.

he still won ££££'s at a tribunal though - becuse we hadn't followed the prodedures they had us with our trousers down.

just a thought.

Diablo

Friday afternoon, about 3.00pm.

No one does any fruitful work after that anyway, and by the time they come back to work on Monday it will have blown over.

And you're not seen to be hiding it by other employees.

That kind of behavior is absolutely not acceptable - if it ruins his weekend that is tough. Should have thought about it beforehand.

Damage limitation is the prior concern as regards remaining employees. Doing it at 3.00 pm lets them know about it before the weekend and discuss amongst themselves when they are doing little else anyway.

D

Diablo

I would suspect that what he did will be deemed gross professional misconduct and as such would result in summary dismissal.

You gotta tell him in writing though.

D

XT

you can start an auction in Ebay and the winner will get to tell the bloke that he's fired!!!!!!!!!!


Plus, you'll make some money....

krankyd

ooh - ooh - ooh.

A tenner starts it. Can I use sms?

XT

PMSL @ krankyd

S55 HOT

Any day - early in the morning.

That way there is plenty of time to deal with any questions or issues - Friday night is a bad idea - they will just fester all weekend.

If you want revenge, get him to come in extra early and then fire him

Al

fast bloke

Start a rumour in the office first. Then hang on for a couple of days before you tell him. That way he will be relieved when it finally happens, as no-one will want to talk to him and he won't know why.

Alternatively - get him to wait late on Friday. Tell him after everyone else has gone.

David_Wallis

If he is suspended then I would write a letter saying that he has a interview / disciplinary hearing with yourself and a representative from HR..

Tell him he is allowed to bring a witness read him the facts then.. gross professional misconduct or whatever...

Thanks, goodbye, cue security waiting outside to escort of the premises via their desk to empty the drawers, infront of everyone

I called a director a **** at my old place... he was being a ****.. so I called him it

Good job we got on well..

David

FollowThrough

I have spoken to the customer and he doesn't want to be responsible for the guy getting the sack. I suspect although he hasn't admitted it he may have been antagonising him

The problem is it was very public. He is a good worker and I don't really want to get rid of him

I am seeing what leaway there is in terms of disciplining him without firing him

mj

I'm filing up............

what a guy.......

seriousley - if the guy is a good worker you'd be mad to let him go, everyone has their bad days, this customer has probly would him up to whatever he said.

[Edited by mj - 3/26/2003 3:26:30 PM]

bros2

Final written warning, based on fact that customer doesn't want to take it any further, previous good service etc

Any repetition means instant dismissal.

krankyd

Dock his wages, and give yourself the difference as a promotion. He won't complain after the official warning for slagging off the customer

FollowThrough

our HR person is not in til tomorrow so I will speak with her then

I think Bros has the right idea

Not that it's relevent but I know this customer and he is not very diplomatic in the way he deals with people

FollowThrough

verbal and written warning
Letter of apology to the customer

all sorted

Nick VR4

final warning and 3-6 months probation
He steps out of line once his **** doesn't touch the ground from desk to HR
plus the letter idea would be a good gesture to customer