What is it with trying to get a new job??-being told yes or no
03 February 2003, 06:25 PM
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Lo All,
Got laid off, and trying to get a new job. Have had a few interviews though know the competition is strong so dont expect to get the first one I go for really.
Anyway - I cant beleive the lack of manners/courtesy being shown by firms / recruiters.
1st one - Interview with Ryan Air - few MONTHS later they get back to me and organise a 2nd interview in Ireland - fly me over for interview / test.....................silence - not a thing - to make it worse the recruitment company dealing with it cant help because the guy handling it has gone to Oz for a month?%^&*£"..............gee thanks. I dont ever expect to hear from either party - not gonna call them the b4stards, if Id got the job they would have called me.
2nd one - Just a week ago had an interview on Wed, was told it would be Fri/Mon that Id be told.............Monday 6.30pm...........nothing.........Thanks again - I dont mind being told no, I wont cry - I just want to know where I stand - This one I will be pursueing tomorrow.
AP
Got laid off, and trying to get a new job. Have had a few interviews though know the competition is strong so dont expect to get the first one I go for really.
Anyway - I cant beleive the lack of manners/courtesy being shown by firms / recruiters.
1st one - Interview with Ryan Air - few MONTHS later they get back to me and organise a 2nd interview in Ireland - fly me over for interview / test.....................silence - not a thing - to make it worse the recruitment company dealing with it cant help because the guy handling it has gone to Oz for a month?%^&*£"..............gee thanks. I dont ever expect to hear from either party - not gonna call them the b4stards, if Id got the job they would have called me.
2nd one - Just a week ago had an interview on Wed, was told it would be Fri/Mon that Id be told.............Monday 6.30pm...........nothing.........Thanks again - I dont mind being told no, I wont cry - I just want to know where I stand - This one I will be pursueing tomorrow.
AP
03 February 2003, 06:38 PM
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Get used to it m8, the agencies are only interested in getting back to you if they think you are wanted for the job and commission in their pocket.
They are only after the commission, if the company has said no to them for you to have a 2nd interview, being courteous and telling you that you haven't been asked back doesn't even enter their heads as it doesn't involve any money for them!
Only way to deal with them is call them up all the time, they get really pissed off with taking phone calls off you they will put you forward for as many jobs as possible to hopefully get rid of you sharpish
They are only after the commission, if the company has said no to them for you to have a 2nd interview, being courteous and telling you that you haven't been asked back doesn't even enter their heads as it doesn't involve any money for them!
Only way to deal with them is call them up all the time, they get really pissed off with taking phone calls off you they will put you forward for as many jobs as possible to hopefully get rid of you sharpish
03 February 2003, 06:56 PM
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I used to be a "recruitment consultant" and it sucked. Did it for a year and went home hating it every night. Very bad practices and an awful company to work for. I am not surprised you are peed off!
03 February 2003, 07:06 PM
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Understand where your coming from but i just had an positive experience with a recruitment company.
I applied for the job.. heard back from them less than a week later. Was given a date for a provisional interview and testing a few days later. Did the testing on Friday and got the results today. They confirmed i am through to the final interview stage and are to give me the date later this week.
Whole thing so far has taken less than 2 weeks since I appllied.
I applied for the job.. heard back from them less than a week later. Was given a date for a provisional interview and testing a few days later. Did the testing on Friday and got the results today. They confirmed i am through to the final interview stage and are to give me the date later this week.
Whole thing so far has taken less than 2 weeks since I appllied.
03 February 2003, 07:32 PM
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yeh well dont be shocked if it goes pair shaped later, dont want to be negative but in the run up to my ryan air interview the recruiters were very helpfull and bent over backwards to help, it was only later on they became lame 4rse bandits
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04 February 2003, 08:29 AM
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Being a contractor I have to rely on agencies for work, and have to admit that they need constant chasing and reminding.
I wish I could bill them for the time I've wasted on calls for feedback on applications etc but the crux of the matter nowadays is that for every position advertised, there's a hundred CV's received and employers can afford to be choosy now.
If you get an interview, you're lucky.
Chase for feedback the following day and ask for timescales when you're likely to hear a decision so you know how much time you have to wait.
I wish I could bill them for the time I've wasted on calls for feedback on applications etc but the crux of the matter nowadays is that for every position advertised, there's a hundred CV's received and employers can afford to be choosy now.
If you get an interview, you're lucky.
Chase for feedback the following day and ask for timescales when you're likely to hear a decision so you know how much time you have to wait.
04 February 2003, 11:39 AM
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Well its Tuesday AM, they were meant to call back by Monday (this is the actual company this time not an agent!) so Ill call after lunch - this gives them the morning to be "a little late"
AP -fraid to say I now dont reckon Ive got it
AP -fraid to say I now dont reckon Ive got it
04 February 2003, 02:32 PM
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I call them, cos they havent called me - they tell me Im over qualified for the position - ffs - Said they thought Id out grow it in 6 months - didnt call me to discuss this maybe. Theyll keep me in mind for a more senior position - yeh like hell you will. Thanks for nothing.
04 February 2003, 02:35 PM
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AP, that's bad news, sorry to hear it. 
You would have thought that a potential employer would be pleased to have an overqualified person for the job, rather than the opposite - but it doesn't seem to work that way.
Ho hum.
Den
You would have thought that a potential employer would be pleased to have an overqualified person for the job, rather than the opposite - but it doesn't seem to work that way.
Ho hum.
Den
04 February 2003, 06:10 PM
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Can't sympathise enough, agencies are ar*es. But if you want to make sure you get through to enough, use www.jobspam.co.uk you only have to fill in the form once and it finds every job on certain recruitment sites and submits your cv to all that match. Only downsides are most jobs are IT based.
04 February 2003, 10:48 PM
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As a Manager I'm kinda busy. Yes I know I might of told you I'd get back to you by Fri, but I do have other things to do. I know the job is important to you and you are waiting for the promised call but other things do have to get done. You also don't know if another interview had to be rearranged??
Just a Managers point of View.
Saying that, if you're a No then I always let you know immediately without waiting until Friday!
Agents: lol! get a good one! Few and far between.
Just a Managers point of View.
Saying that, if you're a No then I always let you know immediately without waiting until Friday!
Agents: lol! get a good one! Few and far between.
05 February 2003, 02:17 PM
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yep they all seem to fail the most basic of skills (recruiters):
Matching skills with candidates, i thought that was what it was all about!!!!
I wondered why I got calls about C++ jobs when it appears *nowhere* on my CV, bunch of To$$ers!
Matching skills with candidates, i thought that was what it was all about!!!!
I wondered why I got calls about C++ jobs when it appears *nowhere* on my CV, bunch of To$$ers!
05 February 2003, 05:52 PM
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You make some valid points. However, if you said you would so something, do you think people should keep their word and do it?
If we used your logic, nobody would do anything for anyone else 'cos they are too bust/self-important.
Remember, it's nice to be nice.
You make some valid points. However, if you said you would so something, do you think people should keep their word and do it?
If we used your logic, nobody would do anything for anyone else 'cos they are too bust/self-important.
Remember, it's nice to be nice.
02 March 2003, 06:30 PM
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Yep
It really sucks! agencies do not seem to give much of a toss, i get called by one about every six months to update my detials by a different person each time. More like ths system sucks and they loose your info, hight turn around of staff, no ownership of clients/accounts.
Wish i could get a job there, money for old rope.
Not that many agencies specialising in what i do so not like there is a lotta choice either.
Fortunately i freelance and have a few clients who 'travel' around with me so it is not life or death for me otherwise i would be pi$$ed off big time!
Ho-hum
[Edited by Paul Habgood - 2/3/2003 6:38:05 PM]
It really sucks! agencies do not seem to give much of a toss, i get called by one about every six months to update my detials by a different person each time. More like ths system sucks and they loose your info, hight turn around of staff, no ownership of clients/accounts.
Wish i could get a job there, money for old rope.
Not that many agencies specialising in what i do so not like there is a lotta choice either.
Fortunately i freelance and have a few clients who 'travel' around with me so it is not life or death for me otherwise i would be pi$$ed off big time!
Ho-hum
[Edited by Paul Habgood - 2/3/2003 6:38:05 PM]
02 May 2003, 02:04 PM
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What amazes me is how stupid some agencies can be. I've just rung one agency up, about a vacancy advertised online, for Java developers - and I quote - "for a number of Java developers of differing standards".
So, having 5 years experience in total, 2 of which has involved Java/J2EE, I ring up expecting them to be interested. After asking me a number of questions (the answers to which were at the very top of my CV) - she asks how many years Java experience I have. "Two" say I. "Oh" she says, "they want at least 3 years".
Well, it would help if you mentioned that on the ****ing advert! If nothing else, NTL are going to like me this month.
Rant off.
Den
[Edited by Dirty_Den - 2/5/2003 2:04:56 PM]
So, having 5 years experience in total, 2 of which has involved Java/J2EE, I ring up expecting them to be interested. After asking me a number of questions (the answers to which were at the very top of my CV) - she asks how many years Java experience I have. "Two" say I. "Oh" she says, "they want at least 3 years".
Well, it would help if you mentioned that on the ****ing advert! If nothing else, NTL are going to like me this month.
Rant off.
Den
[Edited by Dirty_Den - 2/5/2003 2:04:56 PM]
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