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Old 10 September 2002, 05:35 PM
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ive wonderd this for ages.

Why the hell do we print the full extent of our millitary and when and what they will attack..
Surly is absolutly stupid.

Ever thought the enermy maybe be reading it...........

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Old 10 September 2002, 05:57 PM
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errr.....we do? i'd be surprised!
Old 10 September 2002, 09:38 PM
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The sun generally prints that stuff.....point finished.
Old 10 September 2002, 09:40 PM
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It's hardly accurate, the **** they print. Most of it is just made-up, conjecture.
Old 10 September 2002, 10:24 PM
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i read the telegraph and express cheers.

You see this sorta of stuff on Sky news and CNN aswell

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Old 10 September 2002, 10:31 PM
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Telegraph/Express/CNN/ITN/BBC will all get the same information from the relevant press office, they dress it up differently and use different people stories.

All the same stuff, and it will be slightly wrong, because they know that Saddam's Intelligence boys read the papers.
Old 10 September 2002, 10:32 PM
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hmmmmmmmmm
Old 10 September 2002, 11:04 PM
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Always the same...

"The Mail on Sunday has learned about the secret mission to infiltrate SAS troops into Iraq under the cover of air raids. They will be flown in by Night Hawk helicopters...." etc. etc.

I.e. they know nothing at all and make it all up based loosely on previous actions in the vain hope they will sell more papers.

Don't read newspapers, they rot your brain. If you are going to read papers, read a broadsheet, but better read two, one from each side of the political spectrum. You will get a better feel for the actual story.

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Old 10 September 2002, 11:14 PM
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I am boring, I read the Financial times - the TV guide makes me smile
Old 11 September 2002, 07:55 AM
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Newspapers like cut-away images of missiles, and silouettes of Apache helicopters. It gives the writers something cool and macho to discuss.

However, if you're naive enough to believe that any potential enemies we might have would get their military intelligence by reading a red-top, then more fool you.
Old 11 September 2002, 08:57 AM
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Wasnt there actually a notorious incident during the falklands when a news report (cant remember if it was TV/Radio/Paper) went out about an attack shortly before it commenced ?
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i thought with the falklands we had gone in while the press where still being told it wasnt happening?

may be wrong, im a bit to young to remember

T
Old 11 September 2002, 09:33 AM
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I remember during the first world war, a huge mine being set off on the western front during the battle of the Somme in 1916. (I'm 108).
It was set off at 0728, so that the newspapers could get good photo's b4 the lads went over the top at 0730. Those 2 minutes allowed the Germans to plug the gap the mine made with reinforcements, and lots of British troops needlessly lost their lives.............again.
My point is this: nothing changes. The people giving out briefings etc aren't bothered abt the men and women who'll have to carry out whatever attacks are planned. They're interested in making their political masters look good! [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
Old 11 September 2002, 09:40 AM
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what about the Discovery channel to

Programs on Challenger tanks, Sea Wolf class Nuke Subs, Shian Mountain(Spelt wrong i think)

Americas nerve center built in a mountain , and they go telling usa the ins and outs of it.

Really why do it, why dont they just send the blue prints...
Old 11 September 2002, 09:43 AM
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Si, you're missing the point. Most of the hardware detailed in these sorts of programs is sold by the UK/US to most of our 'enemies' anyway. Any other intelligence about these planes will come from far better and more accurate sources than the Discovery channel.

Plus, whilst the shows you watch on TV are very entertaining, and show lots of kewl pictures of subs breaking surface, and launching missiles, etc, they don't actually give any real information away that isn't already in the public domain.
Old 11 September 2002, 09:52 AM
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yeah i guess so.

Quite good to watch, the Sea Wolf is huuuuuuuuuuuuuge sub.

65Million lines programming code to operate though ,scared already
Old 11 September 2002, 09:56 AM
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65Million lines programming code to operate though ,scared already
That's not really that many, considering the amount of kit they've got on there. And most of it was probably cobol, so the lines would've been pretty short.

Our cross-asset trading system here is around 15 million lines of code.
Old 11 September 2002, 10:03 AM
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find the error ! !

Win 2k is 35Million
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find the error ! !
eh?
Old 11 September 2002, 10:19 AM
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find the error in 13m lines

2000's bad enough
Old 11 September 2002, 10:22 AM
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Depends how good you are.

Finding bugs/errors is an iterative process, and usually takes a divide-and-conquer approach. So if you've got 13 million lines of code, you can in many cases, find the right section of code within the first 15-20 attempts. In reality, it'll probably be significantly less than that.
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well there 3 nerds now with you in the building
Old 11 September 2002, 10:36 AM
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Nerds
Yep. I take that as a compliment.
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Old 09 October 2002, 10:21 PM
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They only print what the government's or military press office allows them to print. Duh, do Sun journalists wander around counting tanks/helicopter gunships/war planes. Course not!

[Edited by Miles - 9/10/2002 10:22:39 PM]
Old 09 November 2002, 10:35 AM
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Oh come on, you can do better than that.

[Edited by DJ Dunk - 9/11/2002 10:35:26 AM]
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