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Old 14 March 2016, 09:25 PM
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Hi all,

I'm having a kitchen fit next month, and as we have pushed out all the stops with the design/affordability, and now my One cup kettle has started leaking I have considered swapping the traditional tap for one of these instant Boiling water taps.

Has anyone got one, anything you can offer of advice before I buy one?

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Old 14 March 2016, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob Day
Hi all,

I'm having a kitchen fit next month, and as we have pushed out all the stops with the design/affordability, and now my One cup kettle has started leaking I have considered swapping the traditional tap for one of these instant Boiling water taps.

Has anyone got one, anything you can offer of advice before I buy one?

Thanks,
Rob
Don't do it.

Pos.

The zip hydro taps I've worked on are mega money, unreliable and expensive to maintain
Old 14 March 2016, 09:45 PM
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What would you need it for other than tea

and is it hot enough for Tea
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Originally Posted by dpb
What would you need it for other than tea

and is it hot enough for Tea
For washing dishes, for example. That's if his dishwasher breaks down, or if he has some antique, gold plated crockery to deal with, with his bare hands. He may need that hot tap for hand washing his clothes if his washing machine breaks down. Understand?
Old 14 March 2016, 10:09 PM
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Not really , wouldn't domestic hot water for body washing cover this
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Originally Posted by dpb
Not really , wouldn't domestic hot water for body washing cover this
Oh, sure. I forgot about that. Of course he only essentially needs 'boiling' water for his tea tbh.

I still think it will be good for him to have an instant boiling water tap in his kitchen. Bit of luxury, if one can afford it. Why not, really.
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I have a quooker and it's great, we wouldn't be without it now. Highly recommend it! I wouldn't bother with the zip taps as they are crazy money
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Thanks everyone.

PJ, would you be able to recommend a Quooker model?

What are servicing costs?

Thanks,
Rob
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I have this one
http://www.quooker.co.uk/enuk/collec...rmqhLcVlMOd.97
with the Pro 3 tank.
It has been running for nearly 5 years and not needed anything at all.
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Do you have this as your main kitchen tap? Or completely separate from the sink? does it do all water - ie: cold, hot & boiling?

Just thinking of the potential scalding error in turning on the wrong tap!
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We've got an insinkerator and while it performs well when working, they break down and are generally unreliable.

Whatever you do decide to go with, make sure you have a bloody good filter in-between that and the mains. We use an everpure filter (one which removes chalk as well as the usual rubbish).

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Cheers PJ.

The ones I have seen, you'd need to be an idiot yo scald yourself, even kids!

Hot and cold is usual affair, to get boiling water requires an unusual unconventional operation.
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Originally Posted by Power Junkie
I have a quooker and it's great, we wouldn't be without it now. Highly recommend it! I wouldn't bother with the zip taps as they are crazy money
With Kwooks up to a grand and a half for a tap , just how much are Zips?

We have 'em (Zips) in our works "kitchen", and they do a good job dispensing nearly boiling and filtered chilled water (obviously not at the same time) - but do they really cost loads more than Quookers?

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Originally Posted by boomer
With Kwooks up to a grand and a half for a tap , just how much are Zips?

We have 'em (Zips) in our works "kitchen", and they do a good job dispensing nearly boiling and filtered chilled water (obviously not at the same time) - but do they really cost loads more than Quookers?

mb
Yep, nearer 3k for the top model. And the zip ones are rated in cups per hour, 15, 20, 25, but that is American cups. Not mugs. So only about 230 ml., the average UK mug is nearer 500.

Having worked on a shed load of all of these units over my time, it is a daft idea.

Astronomical running running costs with a 3kw element running on and off all day to maintain 98 degrees. Element replacement almost once a year at 50 quid a time.

Spares and filters etc are stupidly expensive and need doing every 6 months to prevent bacteria build up. 60 quid a time.

Wait until the sensor goes in the tap.... cheaper to buy a whole new unit.

Flimsy cheap material.

Labour costs in repairs are huge as they are impossible to work on...

Tanks require sterilising every year to prevent bacteria and legionella.

Insulation isn't great and cooling and heating next to each other causes the compressor and element to run constantly in hot summers. You also need unsightly vents in your cabinets to ventilate the unit.

We ripped out 16 3k zip units and replaced with individual kettles and chillers. Saved a fortune on electricity and maintenance costs. As when a kettle broke it was a tenner to replace it. You can get a lot of kettles for 3 grand
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We use one in Brazil where they are very popular. Although they only get to mid-high 40degC, certainly not hot enough for a cuppa. Still good though.
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My Quooker is for cooking or drinks and is the opposite side of the sink to the main taps, you have to press down and turn for it to work so its quite safe.
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Decided to give it a miss after several reviews. Thanks for the help all.
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3K? Are they made from platinum?
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Originally Posted by JGlanzaV
Yep, nearer 3k for the top model. And the zip ones are rated in cups per hour, 15, 20, 25, but that is American cups. Not mugs. So only about 230 ml., the average UK mug is nearer 500.

Having worked on a shed load of all of these units over my time, it is a daft idea.

Astronomical running running costs with a 3kw element running on and off all day to maintain 98 degrees. Element replacement almost once a year at 50 quid a time.

Spares and filters etc are stupidly expensive and need doing every 6 months to prevent bacteria build up. 60 quid a time.

Wait until the sensor goes in the tap.... cheaper to buy a whole new unit.

Flimsy cheap material.

Labour costs in repairs are huge as they are impossible to work on...

Tanks require sterilising every year to prevent bacteria and legionella.

Insulation isn't great and cooling and heating next to each other causes the compressor and element to run constantly in hot summers. You also need unsightly vents in your cabinets to ventilate the unit.

We ripped out 16 3k zip units and replaced with individual kettles and chillers. Saved a fortune on electricity and maintenance costs. As when a kettle broke it was a tenner to replace it. You can get a lot of kettles for 3 grand
Ouch!

The Zips at work seem fine, with downtime indicated by LEDs on the tap - but we don't know the true cost because we are in a managed service building.

I am guessing that maintenance is covered by an ongoing contract, so repairs/spares shouldn't be an issue. Also, they don't seem to be built from "Flimsy cheap material" - at least above the counter, and there aren't any "unsightly vents" (it is all in a sealed box).

How does the Zip (overall cost) compare to a Quooker?

Cheers,

mb
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cant beat good old fashioned boiled water in a saucepan mate
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