joey_turbo

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Always fancied having a go at this, after seeing some of the efforts on here. Mostly the main person to do it over here, and with a guide.

Although the guide didn't really apply, as I used a projector headlight kit made for lights with H4 bulbs. So there was no cutting, and everything is totally reversable.

Its still a work in progress, shouldn't be really, as it only took less than an hour to get the projectors in. Its being done with a spare set of crystals I have, which are really the only classic headlights you could do it with.
Basically all I have left to do is wire them up, and fit them to the car.


Ok, here is the kit I bought on a whim:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWNX:IT

I have to buy the ballasts separately, something I overlooked when I made my last minute bid. Also the colour arrangement is not ideal for me, is 8000k, and the lighting around the projector is like a blue angel eye, so probably won't use that.

So first step was to remove the glass:



I also removed the bezel part that can be painted black,:



here is the projector going in:







This is the clever part, or so I thought, the projector is held in place with H4 style connecting ring, so is very secure:





I had to take out the crystal deflector things, they just had one screw holding them in:





SO that was it basically:



Glass will go on later, but actually fitting/wiring, well that could take a while. So no pics of the light output yet.

Glass on:



Plenty of wiring, thats without the ballasts



Couple of questions for the lighting experts.

This frosted area on the top of the projector:



Is that the cut-off? I've heard that mentioned before, and first time round I had the both pointing the wrong way looked like they would blind oncoming traffic. So I had to start the whole thing again. I've looked and looked, but the instructions don't mention the projectors being sided.

Also, what fitment is this bulb:



I'd want to replace if the are too blue, the kit mentions its H4, but I always thought H4 HID bulbs were just the HID version of regular H4's.

All comments welcome.

darms

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Nice one mate....

I take it they are UK Spec Projectors with the correct cut off right?

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prodriverules

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Liking that mate,well done

alcazar

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I'll be interested to see the light output, and how the bulb copes with the cutoff needed for dips.

joey_turbo

iTrader: (26)

Ah darms, the lighting pro I was talking about.

Erm, I don't know. They are Hong Kong specials. I was hoping you could tell me from the frosted area. There is a pic on the box, of them in a lhd car, with the cut off the opposite way. Am I being stupid in assuming you can swap them over to accomodate?

joey_turbo

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Well I know no one likes a bi bulb, because its not brilliant at anything. But full beam I don't care about because I have PIAA 80XT driving lamps. I only use them about 10 percent of the time, so I'd rather see for the other 90.

Whiles I've got two of the lighting guru's on board, anyone know what that bulb fitment is?

joey_turbo

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the bulb supplied are called D2S, which are apparently OE fitment on the cars below, although I doubt most of them use just the one bulb:

ALFA ROMEO ALFA 166 1998 - 2003

ALFA ROMEO ALFA 156 2000 ON

ALFA ROMEO GT 2003 ON



AUDI A3 1997 1999

AUDI A3 2003 2010

AUDI A4 1995 2009

AUDI A6 1998 2010

AUDI A8 1995 2003

AUDI TT COUPE 1998 1999

AUDI TT ROADSTER 2001 ON



BMW 1 SERIES 2004 2006

BMW 3 SERIES 1999 2003

BMW 3 SERIES 2007 2008

BMW 5 SERIES E39 1997 2002

BMW 5 SERIES E60 2003 2006

BMW 6 SERIES 2003 2004

BMW 7 SERIES 1996 2005

BMW M5 1998 2000

BMW M5 2000 ON

BMW MINI 2006 2007

BMW X3 2004 ON

BMW X5 2001 ON

BMW Z4 2006 ON

BMW Z8 2003 ON



CITROEN C6 2005 ON



FORD FOCUS C-MAX 2003 2005

FORD GALAXY 1996 2000

FORD GALAXY 2000 2005

FORD MONDEO 1993 2004



HONDA ACCORD 1999 2002

HONDA ACCORD TOURER 2003 ON

HONDA ACCORD 2003 2005

HONDA S2000 2000 ON



JAGUAR X TYPE 2001 2005

JAGUAR XJ8 1996 2002

JAGUAR XK8 1996 2003

JAGUAR XKR 1998 ON



LAND ROVER DISCOVERY 2003 2007

LAND ROVER RANGE ROVER 2002 2007



LEXUS RX300 2003 ON

LEXUS RX350 2006 ON

LEXUS SC430 2002 ON



MAZDA 3 2003 ON

MAZDA 5 2005 ON

MAZDA 6 2003 2006

MAZDA MX5 2006 ON

MAZDA RX8 2003 2007



MERCEDES A CLASS 2002 2006

MERCEDES A CLASS 2007 ON

MERCEDES B CLASS 2005 ON

MERCEDES C CLASS 2000 2006

MERCEDES CLK 1997 2002

MERCEDES CLK 2002 ON

MERCEDES CLK CABRIOLET 2003 ON

MERCEDES CLS 2004 ON

MERCEDES CLS350 2007 ON

MERCEDES E CLASS 2002 2007

MERCEDES GL CLASS 2006 ON

MERCEDES M 4X4 2005 ON

MERCEDES M CLASS 2006 ON

MERCEDES ML 2005 ON

MERCEDES R CLASS 2005 ON

MERCEDES SL CLASS 2003 ON

MERCEDES SL600 2003 ON

MERCEDES SLK 2003 ON

MERCEDES SLR COUPE 2004 ON



MITSUBISHI LANCER 2008 ON



NISSAN MURANO 2005 2008

NISSAN MURANO 2009 ON

NISSAN PRIMERA 1999 2001

NISSAN PRIMERA 2002 2006



OPEL ASTRA CC 2004 ON

OPEL CORSA 2006 2007

OPEL OMEGA 1998 2003



PEUGEOT 407 2004 2006

PEUGEOT 407 SW 2006 ON

PEUGEOT 407 SALOON 2006 ON

PEUGEOT 407 COUPE 2006 ON

PEUGEOT 607 2001 ON

PEUGEOT 4007 2007 ON



PORSCHE 911 1998 2000

PORSCHE 911 2001 ON

PORSCHE BOXSTER 1996 2004



RENAULT AVANTIME 2002 ON

RENAULT CLIO 2006 ON

RENAULT ESPACE 2000 2002

RENAULT ESPACE 2003 ON

RENAULT MASTER 2002 ON

RENAULT MEGANE 2003 2008

RENAULT MODUS 2004 2008

RENAULT SAFRANE 1996 1998

RENAULT VEL SATIS 2002 ON



ROVER 75 2002 2004

ROVER 75 2004 2005



SAAB 9-3 2005 2006

SAAB 9-3 2007 ON



SEAT ALHAMBRA 2000 ON



SKODA OCTAVIA 2004 2007

SKODA SUPERB 2002 2007



SUBARU IMPREZA STI/WRX 2006 ON



SUZUKI GRAND VITARA 2005 ON

SUZUKI SX4 2005 ON



TVR TAMORA 2001 ON

TVR TUSCAN 2000 ON



VAUXHALL ASTRA COUPE 2000 2003

VAUXHALL ASTRA CC 2004 ON

VAUXHALL CORSA 2006 2007

VAUXHALL OMEGA 1998 2001

VAUXHALL OMEGA 2002 ON

VAUXHALL SIGNUM 2003 ON

VAUXHALL VECTRA 2002 2005



VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE 1998 ON

VOLKSWAGEN GOLF VR6 1998 2003

VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 2004 2006

VOLKSWAGEN JETTA 2006 ON

VOLKSWAGEN PASSAT 1997 2001

VOLKSWAGEN TOURAN 2003 ON



VOLVO C70 2006 ON

VOLVO S40 2004 2008

VOLVO S60 2006 ON

VOLVO V50 2004 2005

VOLVO V50 2006 ON

dan83590

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I will be very interested in seeing pictures of the outcome.

joey_turbo

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Well I'm gonna order my HID ballasts sooner rather than later, but they might take a while.

darms

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I knew someone already tried these.....OR am I going mad

https://www.scoobynet.com/lighting-a...headlamps.html (the actual pics of the units have been removed, )

Tee-

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ive had these Bi-Xenon's fitted to my car for about 2 years now. but mine didnt pass the last mot with them as the adjuster broke in the headlight so i cant adjust the beam i found it very hard to get the beam patter right as there a bit heavy for the ring clips that come with them. also one of the blasts has failed now and only works on full beam but when they were 100% they did look good few pics.




Tee

dan83590

You could bond them in as well as use the thread. That should see them okay shouldn't it?

Tee- It only failed dues to the lack of adjustment? Any other pic's of the beam pattern they give out?

joey_turbo

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NIce. Did you find that the projectors were sided?

ALi-B

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I've had some BMW projectors apart a number of times for cleaning and repairing (adjusters break and the lenses get dusty impairing light output). And the metal strip behind the lens is the cut-off. The lens actually reverses the projected light, so the beam cut-off strip is fitted upside down - with the strip blocking light at bottom, not the top where you would expect.

I'll try to grab a picture, but the cars are covered in a in snow so I doubt the pics will come out or be of any use.

Also make sure the cut-off has a "kick up" suited for a right hand drive car, there will be a "step" along the egde of the same metal strip with allows more light to the curbside, If its dead straight, then there is no kickup (which would make them a bit pants in output as you won't see much on the nearside compared to normal light with a "kick-up" ). I'll have to check which side the kick up notch is supposed to be, as again I think its mirrored (top is bottim, left is right etc...confusing LOL ).

Good luck

Tee-

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at the moment its got one pointing a bit high. its on the to do list lol but i found this pic that gives you an idea.

Tee-

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didnt know the lenses reversed the projector light i left my cutt of strip at the top would be good to see some pics when you can

darms

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My Jaguar Bi-Xenon Projectors has a static cut off unlike some of the BM/Mini projectors.

This is what mine are like


The flap folds down when you flash your headlights

alcazar

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And the above shows the lens effect: the cutoff is placed at the bottom, but will be at the TOP of the light output.

joey_turbo

iTrader: (26)

I was on that thread, but tnever saw any pics of the headlights themselves.
I had a feeling that this is the kit that bob wanted to do. I think his concerns were it not being user freindly, but I thought it was pretty easy.
I was expecting to have to cut the the reflectors like you did, but was pleasently surprised.

vindaloo

They seem to be a version of these....

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/pro...roducts_id=236

Can't say I'm a fan of the angel eyes but I like the projectors lots.

J.

Smurf786

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That bulb looks similar to a d2s to me mate

dan83590

**** me, that was the quickest edit I have ever seen. Did you decide to read the rest of the thread?

harvey

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Interesting. More chance of success on single filament bulbs I guess.

dan83590

Indeed, I may give this a go myself.

harvey

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Goodluck with it. I am very interested to see the outcome on single filament which I think could be impressive.

joey_turbo

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Small update.
Finally got some ballasts. They were delivered pretty much next day, so I could have done it ages ago:



Got to hide all this lot some where in the engine bay:



Just went out to test the ballast, and it all worked, plug and play. The only wires you need to crimp/solder/join are the sidelights, which are the angel eye part, which I wont be using.

alcazar

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So run us through what you have done again: H4 kit with a retrofit HID?

I tried to contact the company selling the lights the OP mentioned, they first agreed to send me a set of instructions, but they never did, and they NOW reckon they no longer sell the lights.

joey_turbo

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Yeah thats it.

But I never got any ballasts with the kit, only just got them now.

I am the OP, and I see that link doesn't work anymore, neither can I find the firm.
It was a generic chinese made kit, there are loads more on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PROJECTOR-LENS...item3a63c96c2f

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

So...........now they are up and running, can you tell us firstly if they use the H4 moving filament bulb? Or a straight D2S type?

Secondly, can you stand the car about 15-20 feet from a wall, select dips and photograph the beam pattern on the wall? Then do main beams?

Thanks.

joey_turbo

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I haven't sorted them yet, just tested the ballasts work when I got in.
Should be completing this weekend, where I'll have some beam pattern shots. But there is already a picture of the bulb, its a straight D2S bulb.